Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science

CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

[grey_whiskers]

earch?

...Earth. I will write 100x on my Blackberry, "Spell Checker is my friend!"

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

Sorry, got to the thread late. As usual.

webby45: "Interestingly with few exceptions you can't take the DNA from one species and put it into the cell of a different species and have a viable cell." CarolinaGuitarman:Scientists have made trans-species organisms already. The DNA in a bacteria is the same(for the most part) as ours.

I think Pinky and the Brain hear you loud and clear, sir!

[Right Wing Professor]

Did you win the powerball?

I thought I might have for about two minutes this morning, when I woke up, turned on the news, and heard the winner was in Lincoln, NE. Holy cow. Then I logged on to the powerball web site and found, as usual, that in a $5 quick pick I hit on exactly one number.

[Coyoteman]

I thought I might have for about two minutes this morning, when I woke up, turned on the news, and heard the winner was in Lincoln, NE. Holy cow. Then I logged on to the powerball web site and found, as usual, that in a $5 quick pick I hit on exactly one number.

Too bad. For that sum you could have bought Nebraska!

[the_doc]

An even bigger problem for evolutionary theory is the evolutionary presupposition that bats could have started off as rats which developed progressively longer and longer "thumb bones" on their front feet over umpteen generations, which would then become support structures for fleshy wing material, which would surely enable the former-rat-now-a-bat creature to fly.

The problem? The transitional stage of a foot becoming a wing is neither useful as a foot nor useful as a wing. According to evolutionary presuppositions, the transition stage dooms the transition. (Nature selects against the transition stage for the obvious reason that the mutant rat would not survive long enough to produce a filial generation, much less a zillion generations of progeny of neither-rats-nor-bats.)

In short, the transition state is a thermodynamic wall.

Alas, I must now go back into stubborn retirement. I don't have time for much on FR these days.

[VadeRetro]

The transitional stage of a foot becoming a wing is neither useful as a foot nor useful as a wing.

You guys use the same BS for dinosaur claws becoming bird wings. Thing is, we have the transitional fossils for that one but still your logic and some fair share of posters have claimed it all impossible.

Oh, wait! We just relived the funny anecdotal story the luddite formerly known as Uriel told earlier on this thread. You "called for" a bat transitional and once again I gave you a bird. So I guess once again your spin will be that I don't know a bat from a bird. No, that's the Bible that doesn't know that.

Meanwhile, once again, dumb as dirt, you show up claiming a grasping forelimb "can't" become a wing because the in-between thing is supposedly bound to be useless. But that's nonsense, especially in the face of evidence that it happened and the in-between thing existed. And that's easy to understand if you try. You see, if the selection pressures are taking you toward some ability to glide/fly, the in-between thing is better than the not quite in-between thing.

Alas, I must now go back into stubborn retirement. I don't have time for much on FR these days.

No doubt you were freepmailed because some dipsnot thought this thread was about his goofy anecdote of how you humiliated me earlier. You may go back to sleep now.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Doc!!! It's so good to see your name again. Hope all's well. YOU ARE MISSED! Stick around.

[grey_whiskers]

Meanwhile, once again, dumb as dirt, you show up claiming a grasping forelimb "can't" become a wing because the in-between thing is supposedly bound to be useless.

Cheer up and read the humor book Science Made Stupid by Tom Weller. The hypertext is an abridged presentation...

The quote I was thinking of is unfortunately not in the link. It shows a partially evolved flying reptile with only one wing--which conferred the survival advantage of being able to pursue its prey around tree trunks in the dense Metatarsal forests. [Yeah, yeah, "Metatarsal" ; the book also classifies "Ignominious," "Metaphoric," and "Sedentary" rocks... :-) ]

Cheers!

[Doctor Stochastic]

Refuting the existence of flying squirrels.

[freedumb2003]

Alas, I must now go back into stubborn retirement. I don't have time for much on FR these days.

Because facts that undermine your mythological worldview make your head hurt.

[freedumb2003]

Refuting the existence of flying squirrels.

say what?

[csense]

"Cheer up and read the humor book Science Made Stupid by Tom Weller..."

...That site is hilarious. Never fails, whenever I go there, I leave in tears, I laugh so hard.

[dread78645]

Saber-toothed duck placemark

[Right Wing Professor]

Too bad. For that sum you could have bought Nebraska!

Someone may indeed buy Nebraska. Last I heard, the winner may be in Colorado. What better way to confirm our status as a flyover/drive-through state to have the biggest lottery ticket in US history bought here by someone on his way somewhere else!

[PatrickHenry]

What better way to confirm our status as a flyover/drive-through state ...

Nebraska has Warren Buffet. And you, of course. Besides, at least it's not Kansas.

[b_sharp]

"The problem? The transitional stage of a foot becoming a wing is neither useful as a foot nor useful as a wing. According to evolutionary presuppositions, the transition stage dooms the transition. (Nature selects against the transition stage for the obvious reason that the mutant rat would not survive long enough to produce a filial generation, much less a zillion generations of progeny of neither-rats-nor-bats.)

I guess flying squirrels, flying snakes, flying fish and even the colugo (flying lemur) have not heard that gliding is a non-starter.

For the lurkers out there, the gliding equipment of the colugo looks very much like a bat's. The 'flap/wing' connects from the tip of the tail to the rear legs to the front legs to the neck; sort of a transition between flying squirrels and bats. If it had longer fingers and more massive shoulders it would look much like a fruit bat (which some claim is a primate).

[balrog666]

[PatrickHenry]

Now there's a transitional!

[VadeRetro]

Refuting the existence of flying squirrels.

Then, somewhat past the halfway point but not yet a flier, is the colugo.

I like the shot above because it's also evidence that humans display a property called neoteny. We look like the babies of other primates.

[VadeRetro]

You guys beat me that time!