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Intelligent Design case decided - Dover, Pennsylvania, School Board loses [Fox News Alert]
Fox News | 12/20/05

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: biology; creation; crevolist; dover; education; evolution; intelligentdesign; keywordpolice; ruling; scienceeducation
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To: Canard

Where's your evidence? Why is that every single evolutionist on this thread in order to make their points have all become inaccurate and inconcise?


1,321 posted on 12/20/2005 4:23:50 PM PST by benjibrowder (The government (at all levels) should not be involved in the education business.)
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To: MineralMan

Have you ever poked one to see the "wolf's milk" ooze forth?


1,322 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:32 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Canard

Denseness is a hallmark Of EVOS and your posts prove it every time.


1,323 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:48 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Fester Chugabrew

festering mass of unsupported assertions placemarker


1,324 posted on 12/20/2005 4:25:22 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Off topic....but which Carolina and what part? (I'd ask about guitars, but I know nothing about them.)


1,325 posted on 12/20/2005 4:25:29 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Diamond
The only thing tortured is the decision of a federal judge who either cannot or will not tell the difference between motive and purpose.

Funny. I thought he pretty well nailed it.

A judge denouncing the motives of only one side in such a lawsuit and calling them liars based on nothing more than his divination of same, is unseemly in numerous ways, not the least of which is that motive is irrelevant to establishment of a secular purpose.

Where are you getting this nonsense? They were flat-out caught. If you have to hide behind your drug habit, you're busted.

You can write all the paragraphs you want about what color the sky is on your planet. It isn't going to matter when the facts on this planet are against you.

1,326 posted on 12/20/2005 4:27:51 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: laxin4him
"Because evolution is the only [scientificly] proven "theory" about the existence ofthe universe."

Darwin is still a theory. It is not scientific fact. There are major gaps in the fossil record. Which record is the foundation of the theory. Therefore a fact is that gaps exist. Are there other explanations that contain gaps? Yes, Intelligent Design. So why does one find favor and the other is found faulty?

Again, Darwin's theory has major flaws. Do you know how many days are devoted to it in Dover science classes versus the proposed addition of the Intelligent Design curriculum? If you knew you would correct your uninformed statements.
1,327 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:08 PM PST by Ceewrighter (O'er the land of the free and the Home of the brave!)
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To: xzins

Clayton, NC (about half an hour from Raleigh).



1,328 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:30 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: VadeRetro

Oh, yeah, "Creationism is a real cancer on Conservatism"...yeah, uh sure. Keep telling yourself that. And God I hope you don't keep that tagline, unless you feel like getting hate mail in your Freepmail.


1,329 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:31 PM PST by benjibrowder (The government (at all levels) should not be involved in the education business.)
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To: navysealdad

[...God is who created us. Evolution is how he did it...]

I believe there is NO GAP between Gen 1:1 and 1:2.

"I declared the former things long ago and they went
forth from My mouth, and I proclaimed them......
SUDDENLY I acted, and they came to pass." Isaiah 48:3.


1,330 posted on 12/20/2005 4:29:25 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
More apropos to the subject at hand, is it unreasonable to believe organized matter that behaves according to predictable laws may be the result of intelligent design?

If I believed in intelligent design, then it might not be unreasonable.

Since I don't believe in ID, then yes, it's unreasonable.

Now, how about my question?

Got proof?

1,331 posted on 12/20/2005 4:30:13 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: laxin4him
I guess my evidence is that there is no explanation for how the universe came into being apart from a creator.

Ignorance is not evidence. Faith is not evidence.

1,332 posted on 12/20/2005 4:31:18 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: The Lumster
So like I said, why should we have local elections at all. We might as well complete the transformation from constitutional republic to elected tyrants and quite fooling ourselves

I guess we just differ: you want elected tyrants to have unfettered power; I prefer to have elected tyrants held in check by Constitutional proscriptions. I accept the reality of the Constitutional system as it is currently arrayed; you prefer to wrap yourself around long rejected legal arguments whilst barking at the moon.

1,333 posted on 12/20/2005 4:31:39 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Ceewrighter

I corrected it in a later thread. Is there a way to correct the original? It was meant to be presented as sarcasm.


1,334 posted on 12/20/2005 4:33:17 PM PST by laxin4him (They will know by our love not our picket lines)
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To: narby
That doesn't change the fact that I'm still many posts behind in this thread. Do some more reading.

Been off all afternoon chasing a hardware bug that has moved from my power supply into my sound card. ("It could HAPPEN!"--Judy Tenuda.)

I'm never gonna catch up on this thread now. Especially without the little "clack" sounds on each request for next page.

1,335 posted on 12/20/2005 4:33:22 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Oh how arrogant of you.


1,336 posted on 12/20/2005 4:33:38 PM PST by benjibrowder (The government (at all levels) should not be involved in the education business.)
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To: VadeRetro

You computer is possessed by daemons.


1,337 posted on 12/20/2005 4:34:48 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: benjibrowder

Where's my evidence for what? eleni121 making numerous repeated unsubtantiated assertions which he cannot and will not provide any evidence whatsoever in support of? Err, all of his posts in this thread...


1,338 posted on 12/20/2005 4:35:18 PM PST by Canard
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To: Ceewrighter
Darwin is still a theory.

So is gravity.

There are major gaps in the fossil record.

There are known inconsistencies between relativity and quantum mechanics. Shall we throw them out and just decide that God makes everything move?

Are there other explanations that contain gaps? Yes, Intelligent Design.

And Zeus, Xenu, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and a few thousand others. How come ID is the preferred "theory"?

So why does one find favor and the other is found faulty?

Because there's lots of evidence to support one and none to support the others.

1,339 posted on 12/20/2005 4:35:37 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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To: andysandmikesmom

Gone for the night 'placemarker'...


1,340 posted on 12/20/2005 4:35:38 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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