Posted on 11/19/2005 11:37:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
Cody Young is an evangelical Christian who attends a religious high school in Southern California. With stellar grades, competitive test scores and an impressive list of extracurricular activities, Mr. Young has mapped a future that includes studying engineering at the University of California and a career in the aerospace industry, his lawyers have said.
But Mr. Young, his teachers and his family fear his beliefs may hurt his chance to attend the university. They say the public university system, which has 10 campuses, discriminates against students from evangelical Christian schools, especially faith-based ones like Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murrieta, where Mr. Young is a senior.
Mr. Young, five other Calvary students, the school and the Association of Christian Schools International, which represents 4,000 religious schools, sued the University of California in the summer, accusing it of "viewpoint discrimination" and unfair admission standards that violate the free speech and religious rights of evangelical Christians.
The suit, scheduled for a hearing on Dec. 12 in Federal District Court in Los Angeles, says many of Calvary's best students are at a disadvantage when they apply to the university because admissions officials have refused to certify several of the school's courses on literature, history, social studies and science that use curriculums and textbooks with a Christian viewpoint.
The lawyer for the school, Robert Tyler, said reviewing and approving the course content was an intrusion into private education that amounted to government censorship. "They are trying to secularize private Christian schools," Mr. Tyler said. "They have taken God out of public schools. Now they want to do it at Christian schools."
A lawyer for the university, Christopher M. Patti, called the suit baseless. Acknowledging the university does not accept some courses,
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"You said Catholic schools produce fine students."
Actually, that's not what I said. LOL.
If they would be SO diligent in policying courses AT UNIVERSITIES, like the crap courses taught by Mr. Churchill AT COLORADO.
Facts is they won't admit that the persons making these judgement have a viewpont which will allow acceptance of "gender-studies" courses, which purely ideological in character.
My son was homeschooled. We typed up his transcript ourselves, which the University of Missouri knew. It listed only subjects taken, no specifics and no grades (except for three classes he had taken online through the University of Missouri). He did well on his ACT (27) and was admitted without any problems. He graduated from Mizzou last spring.
Reasonable paraphrase. LOL.
The school did not ask where I was employed.
Go ahead and teach your children the earth is flat for all I care. Creationism is a myth not science. If you want your child to get into MIT and other top schools they need to learn real science not Bob Jones pseudosceince.
BTW you call me a facist illustrating what a complete ignorant fool that you are. I donate gobs of dollars to fundamentalist christian schools and charitable organizations. Likely more than your primate paycheck will ever see.
No. As a matter of fact I send my kids to a Christian school.
"Gobs" is a technical term. I believe it is slightly more than "oodles" but less than "tons of."
Ugh, a large portion of everything is currently being outsourced to India and China! Ever call a computer "help line" (now there's a euphemism)?
The headline should read "University Is Accused of Bias Against SOME Christian Schools."
Graduation from, say, the Unitarian/Mennonite Free School of Social Conscience in Marin County would probably result in instant admission even if the grad could not read or write, or, indeed, tie his own shoes (a culturally biased test of skill, doncha know).
"The school did not ask where I was employed."
Like they had to ask.
LOL. In the future I'll try to be more precise in my word choice.
I just figured this thread was getting a little heavy...needed to lighten up a bit.
So, are you willing to posit an actual questiion, or do you simply plan to keep trying your deflective pompassity? Your premise is faulty. There is no winner by default.
I have a theory. You have a theory. God will let us know who wins! In the end, it doesn't really matter, except to some of us, who believe in a future eternity. Apparently you don't.
You want to be the authority. You're not. You're just another crackpot that wants to play at being a god... and deny His existence. Go sit in your ivory tower, if you think it will keep you safe.
If you choose not to believe something, you have the right. Just don't expect everybody else to accept your own beliefs. As one who posits his trust in science, then secience will keep your bones.
Some people do think with their hearts. That is the essence of Christian morality. It is defined by a higher calling, only heard by those, with an affinity for God's Spirit. Calling us mystics, or relating our beliefs to a misunderstanding of science, is an affront to an awful lot of like-minded people. I guess that is the way a professor might look at things, from his high and lofty perch.
You can keep restating your amoral relativism, methinks. It's irrelevant, to me!
"Do SAT/ACT tests have questions about faith? If you do well on your tests, it shouldn't matter whether you believe in Jesus or Santa Claus. Plus if you do well on your tests, you can pretty much pick your college.
If a college rejects you because of your faith in Jesus, that would be great sign to go to a Christian college. "
Having been the head of a high school science department I can tell you there is more than SATs to getting into a good college. Their grades are important but the grades are considered in the context of the high school they attended. If the high school is not accredited by a regional association, it's an uphill battle to get into a good school even with good SATs.
"When the UC system stops giving credit for some of the ethnic studies courses taken by high school students, I will take this kind of argument seriously. Even if the Christian high-school courses have low academic value--and I don't know the answer to that one way or the other--the Univ. is engaging in viewpoint discrimination by giving credit for one second-rate course but denying credit for another."
Giving credit for an elective is different than having an unqualified course in a required areas like math or science.
I fail to see where I said any of the things you seem to think I said.
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