Posted on 11/07/2005 12:05:04 PM PST by Mikey_1962
THE Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin, voicing strong criticism of Christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible" if the Bible were read correctly. His statement was a clear attack on creationist campaigners in the US, who see evolution and the Genesis account as mutually exclusive.
"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".
This idea was part of theology, Cardinal Poupard emphasised, while the precise details of how creation and the development of the species came about belonged to a different realm - science. Cardinal Poupard said that it was important for Catholic believers to know how science saw things so as to "understand things better".
His statements were interpreted in Italy as a rejection of the "intelligent design" view, which says the universe is so complex that some higher being must have designed every detail.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
I disagree with you completely. A sphere is circular, so the verbiage, whatever one might believe people thought, is accurate. The paintings and drawings I have seen show the earth as a flat plane where a ship will fall off of the edge.
Flat Earther's thought Columbus would sail off the edge of the earth, which was always depicted with a straight edge as if the earth was a table top. I have never seen the earth described or depicted as a pancake.
A person examining the curvature of the earth would reason that it is a sphere. The shadow cast on the moon would also help a person reason that it is a sphere, for if a person were standing on a pancake that made a circular shadow on the moon, they would fear falling off with the syrup.
Only to a relativist. You keep moving the goal post. You said in your last post that "History has shown that the moral rules embodied in the Communist Manifesto are disastrous for a society."
Evidently morality does not flow from society by your own admission.
You've implied by your theory on society and morality previously, and correct me if I'm wrong, that morality is collectivist. It isn't as evidenced by Marxism, Nazism, Maoism et al.
Moral absolutes exist. I'll prove it to you if you'd like.
Sure
Evidently morality does not flow from society by your own admission.
Sure it does. That doesn't mean, however, that such morality always leads to a properly functioning society.
You've implied by your theory on society and morality previously, and correct me if I'm wrong, that morality is collectivist.
Yes. That is my position.
Moral absolutes exist. I'll prove it to you if you'd like.
There are certain moral rules that have been shown, through trial and error, to be necessary for the proper functioning of a society. You can call them "moral absolutes," if you'd like.
You: Sure it does. That doesn't mean, however, that such morality always leads to a properly functioning society.
You claim that communist countries are moral but being moral doesn't always lead to a properly functioning society. Interesting. Stalin murdered tens of millions. They subsumed the indivdual to the "society". Do you consider these things moral?
No. I claim that certain moral systems don't lead to properly functioning societies.
Was Stalinist Russia a "moral system"? Khmer Rouge a "moral system"? Nazism a "moral system"?
Yes. All three of those societies had systems of morals.
One could take the carbon monoxide down to (absolute) zero in a magnetic field. Then the entropy should be Sqrt(2) smaller than that of field free frozen CO. Melting of the crystals could be used to measure this difference.
Not even unable to spread. A differential survival rate is enough.
:-} Wonderful.
The molecule I really like, though, it CH2D2. Even though the only departure from tetrahedral symmetry is isotopic, the molecules align at about 1 K. In this case, tunneling through the rotational barrier is fast enough to allow the disorder to anneal out.
Act like an animal: eat, sleep, breed.
Mark for later reading.
Neat. And with a greenhouse gas, too.
"God's Rest" was not for God. A course on the Book of Hebrews may help to enlighten you
"Hebrew scholars I know tell me the word used for "earth" doesn't necessarily mean the whole planet, but could also mean just large geographical area."
Agreed. The more I hear of Hebrew scholars, the more I like them!
"If that were the case, then it could not have wiped out the whole human race. I'm more inclined to speculate that it occurred in Africa somewhere very early in human history at a time when the entire human population was concentrated in a small enough area so that it could be potentially wiped out by a flood."
But the entire human race wasn't wiped out by this localized event, else all of humanity would be inbred, mildly-brown-skinned descendants of Noah and his incestual children.
Not when you guys see to it that they don't get published if they don't toe the line. Not when you won't graduate them or enter postgraduate studies if they refuse to believe.. etc. Do you really think all these things happen in a vacuum? Articles crop up here of professors that don't buy in and end up getting fired, etc. Ya'll have a short memory for things like that.
If you had a totality of anything to look at it would be a start.. you don't. You have a pile of theories that you can look at that *seem* to make sense - theoretically. But the only thing you have a totality of is theories. Anything not comporting itself to Evolution or contradicting it gets you
verbally assassinated like Behe. If you wish to stand by and claim ignorance of all these things then pretend that you haven't stacked the deck as a community, you may think you've fooled someone - but not me, not the folks here, and not the public who has had enough.
Okay
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.