Posted on 09/29/2005 2:21:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
The year was 1838. In England, the Industrial Revolution was under way, but it had made rich only the owners of production, not the workers. In increasingly crowded cities, ordinary people struggled for their daily existence. Some of the poor rioted. The Poor Laws were under attack: Welfare to the needy would only increase their dependence and encourage the breeding of still more hungry mouths to feed, said critics. It was in this pivotal year that Darwin, back from his voyage on the Beagle and trying to understand the forces that drove the origin of new species, read the works of Thomas Malthus, a parson and social economist.
In opposition to the utopian thinkers of the day, Malthus believed that unless people exercised restraint in the number of children they had, the inevitable shortfall of food in the face of spiraling population growth would doom mankind to a ceaseless struggle for existence. Out of that unforgiving battle, some would survive and many would not, as famine, disease, and war put a ceiling on the growth in population.
These ideas galvanized Darwin's thinking about the struggles for survival in the wild, where restraint is unknown. Before reading Malthus, Darwin had thought that living things reproduced just enough individuals to keep populations stable. But now he came to realize that, as in human society, populations bred beyond their means, leaving survivors and losers in the effort to exist.
Immediately, Darwin saw that the variation he had observed in wild populations would produce some individuals that were slightly better equipped to thrive and reproduce under the particular conditions at the time. Those individuals would tend to leave more offspring than their fellows, and over many generations their traits would come to dominate the population. "The result of this would be the formation of new species," he wrote later. "Here, then, I had at last got a theory by which to work."
That theory, of course, was none other than natural selection, the driving force of evolution. Though scholars have debated just how influential Malthus was in Darwin's thinking, there can be no doubt that his view of the struggle in society enabled Darwin to appreciate the significance of the struggle in the wild.
"Hitler on signing the Nazi-Vatican Concordat, April 26, 1933: "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without religious foundation is built on air; consequently all character training and religion must be derived from faith . . ."
"Nature...puts living creatures on this globe and watches the free play of forces. She then confers the master's right on her favorite child, the strongest in courage and industry...The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel." - Mein Kampf, pp 134-5, 285, 289
Hitler's Table Talk is his private recorded conversation with many Reich leaders over many years. If you really knew any WWII history you would know that Hilter had everything he said written down by his secretary. Many of these statements are corroborated by Goebbels' diary, which is a primary source. In the end, if you want to know about nazis, you consult their own writings and statements, you do not consult anti-Christian bigots.Joseph Goebbels Diary “The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian... He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race.”
Memoranda by Martin Bormann read into evidence at Nuremberg "National Socialist and Christian concepts are irreconcilable. The Christian Churches build upon the ignorance of men and strive to keep large portions of the people in ignorance because only in this way can the Christian Churches maintain their power. On the other hand, National Socialism is based on scientific foundations. Christianity's immutable principles, which were laid down almost two thousand years ago, have increasingly stiffened into life-alien dogmas. National Socialism, however, if it wants to fulfill its task further, must always guide itself according to the newest data of scientific researches."
"Our National Socialist ideology is far loftier than the concepts of Christianity which, in their essential points, have been taken over from Jewry. For this reason, also, we do not need Christianity.... If, therefore, in the future our youth learn nothing more of this Christianity whose doctrines are far below ours, Christianity will disappear by itself.... It follows from the irreconcilability of National Socialist and Christian concepts that a strengthening of existing confessions, and every assistance for originating Christian confessions, is to be rejected by us. A differentiation between the various Christian confessions is not to be made here. For this reason, also, the thought of an erection of an Evangelical National Church by merger of the various Evangelical churches has been definitely given up, because the Evangelical Church is just as inimical to us as the Catholic Church. Any strengthening of the Evangelical Church would merely react against us...."
"For the first time in German history, the Fuehrer consciously and completely has the leadership of the people in his own hand. With the Party, its components, and attached units the Fuehrer has created for himself, and thereby the German Reich Leadership, an instrument which makes him independent of the Church. All influences which might impair or damage the leadership of the people, exercised by the Fuehrer with the help of the N.S.D.A.P., must be eliminated. More and more the people must be separated from the churches and their organs, the pastors. Of course, the churches must and will, seen from their viewpoint, defend themselves against this loss of power. But never again must an influence on leadership Of the people be yielded to the churches. This influence must be broken completely and finally."
"Only the Reich Government and, by its direction, the Party, its components and attached units have a right to leadership of the people. Just as the deleterious influences of astrologers, seers, and other fakirs are eliminated and suppressed by the State, so must the possibility of Church influence also be totally removed. Not until this has happened does the State leadership have influence on the individual citizens. Not until then are people and Reich secure in their existence for all the future...." - Exhibit USA 348, Document D-75
"We are inducing schools more and more to reduce and abolish morning religious services. Similarly the confessional and general prayers in several parts of the Reich have already been replaced by National Socialist mottoes. I would be grateful to know your opinion on a future National Socialist morning service instead of the present confessional morning services which are usually conducted once per week...." - Exhibit USA 349, Document 070-PS
Bormann further declares that the churches could not be subjugated through compromise but only through a new philosophy of life as prophesied in Rosenberg's writings. Bormann proposes the creation of a National Socialist Catechism in order to give that part of the German youth which declines to practice confessional religion a moral foundation and to lay a moral basis for National Socialist doctrines, which are gradually to supplant the Christian religions. Bormann suggests that some of the Ten Commandments could be merged with the National Socialist Catechism and states that a few new Commandments should be added, such as: "Thou shalt be courageous; Thou shalt not be cowardly; Thou shalt believe in God's presence in the living nature, animals, and plants; Thou shalt keep thy blood pure;" etc.
"Christianity and National Socialism are phenomena which originated from entirely different basic causes. Both differ fundamentally so strongly that it will not be possible to construct a Christian teaching which would be completely compatible with the point of view of the National Socialist ideology; just as the communities of Christian faith would never be able to stand by the ideology of National Socialism in its entirety..." - Document 098-PS, Exhibit USA 350
"The Reich Labour Service is a training school in which the German youth should be educated to national unity in the spirit of National Socialism.... What religious beliefs person has is not a decisive factor, but it is decisive that he first of all feels himself a German. Every religious practice is forbidden in the Reich Labour Service because it disturbs the comradelike harmony of all working men and women. On this basis, every participation of the Reich Labour Service in religious arrangements and celebration is not possible." - Document 107-PS, which is Exhibit USA 351 - LINK
Baldur von Schirach "The destruction of Christianity was explicitly recognized as a purpose of the National Socialist movement."
Quotes from Alfred Rosenberg from The Myth of the Twentieth Century "The pope is a medicine man, the dunce of our age."
"papacy is servitude."
"the Christian Jewish plague must perish"
"The idea of honour -- national honour -- is for us the beginning and the end of our entire thinking and doing. It does not admit of any equal-valued centre of force alongside it, no matter of what kind, neither Christian love, nor the Free-Masonic humanity, nor the Roman philosophy."
"Today, a new faith is awakening-the Myth of the Blood, the belief that the divine being of mankind generally is to be defended with the blood. The faith embodied by the fullest realization, that the Nordic blood constitutes that mystery which has supplanted and overwhelmed the old sacraments."
"The German people is not marked by original sin, but by original nobility. The place of Christian love has been taken by the National Socialist, Germanic idea of comradeship ...which has already been symbolically expressed through the replacement of the rosary by the spade of labour"
"The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany... On the altars there must be nothing but 'Mein Kampf' and to the left of the altar a sword. On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."
Heinrich Himmler "I am to prepare a new Nazi religion. I am to draft the new Bible, the Bible of the faith.... The Fuhrer has decided that, after the victory of the Third Reich, he will abolish Christianity throughout Great Germany, and establish the faith on its ruins. The latter will preserve the idea of God, but it will be very vague and indistinct. The Fuhrer will replace Christ as the savior of humanity. Thus, millions and millions of people will say only Hitler's name in their prayers, and a hundred years from now nothing will be known but the new religion, which will endure for centuries."
Robert Ley "Once your heart is branded with the swastika,
You hate any other cross!
If you identify yourself with your nation,
You laugh at redeemer cranks.
...
Beware anyone one who demands:
'Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself‘'
What the Nazarine demands is our demise..." - The ‘Confession of Faith’ of the ‘Reichsarbeitsführer’The official song of the Hitlerjugend (‘Youth of Hitler’) at the Reichsparteitag 1934
We are Hitler’s joyous youth,
What need we Christian virtue!,
Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler
Is always our redeemer!
No wicked priest can hinder us,
To sense that we are Hitler’s children;
We follow not Christ but Horst Wessel,
Away with incense and holy water!
The Church can go hang for all we care,
The Swastika brings salvation on Earth.Stromtroopers Marching Song, 1934
Defiantly, we struggled for fifteen years to win abiding power.
We stormed, we won, even though Rome and Judah mocked.We did not shed our blood, without name or glory,
So that Christianity keep Jew-ridden the German way. . .Let the Christian offer Palestine his years, his heart, his hand;
We are free of Mount Sinai, Germany is our Holy Land....Pope and rabbi, both must go. Heathens we will be again,
No longer crawl to Church. Ours is the sun wheel's lead.refrain: Out with the Jews! Out with the Pope! Turn them out of Germany's house!"
I've got news for you, the majority of Christiandom: the Catholic, Orthodox and Lutherin churchs accept physical evolution as the Will of God or is God incapable of creating certain things that don't fit with your or other's opinions?
Modus Operande for some.
I'm glad to see you in solidairty with your fellow anti-Christian bolshevik ACLU friends.
Lay off the crack, it's finally burnt out that last neuron. As pointed out, you stand well nigh with Marx, congrats. /sarcasm
Is that moi to whom you are referring?
Actually wrong on all three counts.
Could I interest you in a nice fossil?
1. Australopithecus afarensis
2. Australopithecus africanus
3. Homo habilis
4. Homo erectus
5. Neandertal
Source: http://www.sculpturegallery.com
Tell your evolusheviki buddies that evolution is "the will of God." Such "Intelligent Design" theory is the sign of creationist whackjobs to them.
So you deny that God has the ability to create Evolution? Will you deny that God has the ability to create a round planet?
Do you believe in the "Right to Die?"
Where do you stand on the issue of Homosexual Marriage?
You can falsely attribute statements to me that I haven't made as much as you like. Lies and slander are all you are good for.
"I've got news for you, the majority of Christiandom: the Catholic, Orthodox and Lutherin churchs accept physical evolution as the Will of God or is God incapable of creating certain things that don't fit with your or other's opinions?"
Yes or no: is God capable of creating evolution. Simple question, set your view:
Are you trying to link those who believe in Evolution with pro-abortionists?
God can do whatever He wants.
I have found this to be the case. I hope he will answer the questions honestly.
Of course you are right, we who's founding fathers were the Apostals know nothing of Christianity, not like those who were founded by men of limited knowledge.
Well, in that case I guess the Catholic, Orthodox and Lutherin churchs are pro-abortion, except they're not, so that's 1.5 billion cases (if they follow their church's teachings) were its not the case.
So God in his infinite wisdom could quite easily have created evolution, just like he created all the other laws of nature.
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