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Darwin and Malthus
PBS ^ | 2001

Posted on 09/29/2005 2:21:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Mylo

Hitler believed in a god, but it wasn't Jesus Christ.


161 posted on 09/30/2005 6:41:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He said his lord drove out the moneylenders from the temple. Does this describe someone other than Jesus?

He said Nationalist Socialism was a "true-Christian" principle, was he referring to a different Christ?
162 posted on 09/30/2005 6:44:29 PM PDT by Mylo ( scientific discovery is also an occasion of worship.)
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To: Mylo
He was lying.

""By means of the struggle, the elites are continually renewed. The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest. Christianity is rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of failure."

That's what he really believed.

"All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity."

He was a "scientist" like you Mylo. His God was nature.

163 posted on 09/30/2005 6:48:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Mylo

And yes, he was referring to an "Aryan Christ," Baldur the Brave, a resurrected German god.


164 posted on 09/30/2005 6:50:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Oh, so any Christian you don't like was just lying about their true belief?

It doesn't change the historic FACT that Hitler used Christian rhetoric to inflame sentiment against Jews if he was a SUPER SECRET DOUBLE PROBATION pagan or atheist or "scientist" or whatever the lie of the day you are trying to peddle.

He said it. They believed it. They killed the Jews because of it.

And you have a really sick view of what being a scientist is if you think that Hitler was one. He was a painter, he didn't ever do any science, and he didn't understand evolutionary theory (and neither do you).

Now you compared me to Hitler. This discussion is over. I don't like you anymore. Don't you know that calling someone Hitler is the last refuge of an intellectual cretin?
165 posted on 09/30/2005 6:56:00 PM PDT by Mylo ( scientific discovery is also an occasion of worship.)
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To: Mylo
I don't believe that Germans killed Jews because they believed they killed Christ. The SS were forbidden to believe in God. They killed robotically to serve the fuhrer. No amount of lies is going to change history to your distorted anti-Christian hate-fantasy.

You are nothing but but scum trying to jew-bait Christians. You are like Abe Foxman and Jesse Jackson. Your disgusting race-baiting shows you are no conservative.

Are you Pro-life?

Do you believe in the "Right to Die?"

What is your position on Homosexual Marriage?

166 posted on 09/30/2005 7:17:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Millions for defense but not one penny for tribute!)
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The question is, why so many Christians --- in the country that was the apex of Western civilization at the turn of the century --- could not deduce that? They were deceived by Satan.

Don't you think it is too thin of an answer? All these people, including the infallible Popes, are deceived by Satan? And all deceived to the point that not a single cry of dissension is recorded?

You have a strange view of the Roman Empire. Mutiny was common; the age of "heresies" lasted for centuries. People dared and has mental and intellectual fortitude to discuss such fundamental, subtle and socially dangerous issues as the nature of Christ. Satan did not deceive them completely, and certainly not all of them, to have an opinion on these and any other matter that arose in the course of 1700 years. But when it came to persecution of the Jews, starting with the "deceived" first Christian emperor, not a single person found it to be non-Chrstian. Likewise, when Isabella expelled all Jews and Roma in 1492 --- about 10% of the population; just imagine expulsion today of about 30 million Americans --- not only did not anyone object, but she has become an EMBLEM of Christianity: as I mentioned in the previous post, she became known as Isabella the Catholic. Deception by Satan? All of this?

As you know, the expulsion resulted from the 1492 law prohibiting the settlement of Jews in Spain. Do you know when that law was repealed and taken off the books? In 1992. They were tolerated starting only in late 1800s. Most remarkably, Franco gave refuge to about 25,000 French and other European Jews who managed to escape to Spain. Isn't it interesting, that today there are about 14,000 Jews in the entire Spain --- 500 years after expulsion --- and about 10,000 in Munich alone, 50 years after the greatest catastrophe ever that befell the Jews? And that is in Munich, the birthplace of Hitler's movement.

Thus, Spanish Cristians have been deceived by Satan for one half of a millennium. Moreover, this has remain unnoticed by the Papal authorities: not a single Pope has ever raised objections. The same is true with respect to Britain, wherefrom Jews were expelled in 1190 and did not reappear until mid 1500, when the new level of general religious tolerance has permitted that. During all this time, however, none of the Church leaders has even raised the issue. Actually, Jews were expelled at least once from all Papal States in mid 1500s (I don't recall more precisely). All these people were deceived by Satan?

Satan is really powerful, then: he marshals to his side the greatest thinkers and leaders of the Church --- and does so for almost two millennia without any difficulties. Where is G-d, then? Aren't you shortchanging His power?

Or, perhaps, those unopposed persecutions were not really non-Christian, as you claim. Perhaps, it is the interpretation of Christianity in modern times that has changed: Christians used to kill Christians en masse, too, and stopped only recently, after the Thirty-year War. But the sacred books did not change. Nor, as far as I know, did Christ visit this world in the last 1900 years. So, if there is a change, its roots must lie outside the religion itself.

You've got to think about all this, Joe. Attributing consistent actions, taken for almost 2000 years without any dissension, to Satan seems a bit disingenuous and certainly disrespectful to G-d, who in this picture sits idle and does nothing. Think about that Joe.

Regards, EP.

167 posted on 10/01/2005 8:07:34 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: Mylo

Actually, one of the stated goals of the SS was the removal of Christianity from the New European Order. Hitler was big into Nitchze and his Anti-Christ and wrote to the Mufti of Jerusalem (before his exile by the British) that he would like to bring Islam into Europe to substitute Christianity which was weak. (Love thy neighbor and thy enemy and Christ being a Jew)


168 posted on 10/03/2005 11:25:16 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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All I did was ask a question.

In fact you accused me of believing in Greek Paganism because I believe that Jesus Christ is One in Being with the Father.

Don't you pop psychologists call this "projection?"

169 posted on 10/10/2005 9:47:23 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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