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Nuclear family gets nuked by the Gen-Xers
The Australian ^ | 9/15/05 | Bernard Salt

Posted on 09/15/2005 9:28:57 AM PDT by qam1

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To: yellowdoghunter

WOW! I have never heard of a marriage destroying a life. It has been my experience that the person did not pick their life partner very well and ended up in a mess.


and some people get blindsided.


221 posted on 09/16/2005 6:33:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: Gabz
I wasn't involved in any discussion on the thread. I was commenting on the article.

As for the s it was a typo. I have tried to improve my typing, but unfortunately, I still make typos, particularly when I use my lap top.

222 posted on 09/16/2005 7:34:02 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Gabz
"I'm hitting the sack"

Sounds like a good plan.

Maybe you can answer this question for me tomorrow.

Why would you address a post to me AND yourself?

223 posted on 09/16/2005 7:37:11 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Gabz

I'm not particularly bothered by your soi-disant magnanimity.


224 posted on 09/17/2005 3:16:52 AM PDT by Feldkurat_Katz (What no women’s magazine ever offers to improve is women’s minds - Taki)
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To: RMDupree
"I need every penny I can get, so I do claim my kids on my W4."

Then you took a government subsidy for your kids. I don't care if you 'need every penny,' so does everyone else. That you think you need it more don't mean squat, Pharisee. The welfare queens think they need it more, too.

Did you take free schooling for them?"No. With the exception of public school, I've paid for day care and pre-K when I needed it without using any government program. And we do not participate in the free lunch program either."

Oh, good answer...as if in saying no you completely negate the fact that you ARE taking free schooling. That you paid for day care and pre-K and lunch just means you're carrying the load you ought to be carrying. Meanwhile, you gleefully send your kids to school on the taxpayer's dime.

"Nope. I go to the second-hand bookstore to purchase books for my kids. And don't folks without kids go to the library too? What a stupid point."

When someone like you is oblivious to the fact that libraries and public schools are primarily handouts to families, I suppose everything that might inundate your sanctimonious claim to be "not signed up with any kind of government assistance" is 'stupid.' You cash a check every day, just as Uncle Sam steals from our paychecks every day to support you and yours.

My kids go to our private community park which is maintained through association fees since it is not county-owned.

But I bet your 'private community park' is there because parks aren't taxed, even though they are a benefit to only neighborhood families. They tax lands used in exactly the same way on private lands, but government has been pressured by developers to give them credits for setting aside faux "parkland," another subsidy for development that will primarily benefit who? Families like yours.

And once again, childless people use those parks too.

Yep, I bet lots of children use those parks every day, and almost none of them have kids. But to make your anecdotal observation more obvious--I bet there are probably ten or fifteen people that use the high school football field for non-athletic events every year. That doesn't mean the public should be subsidizing high school football fields.

"How about I take it to the next level and tell you that you are a jerk who should have stayed in exile. OH! By the way, how does it feel to support a party that never ever wins? Seems like it's made you a wee lil' bit bitter. Walk a mile in my shoes before you start talking. You have proven yourself to be an ignorant fool."

Ooooh, I'll cry myself to sleep over that. When you can't defend your chompin' at the gummint tit, you pull out the childish insults. The only demonstration in ignorance here is 'stupid' l'il you. Families are subsidized in myriad ways, as was the point above. And your holier-than-thou comments to GuvShrinker notwithstanding, you ARE signed up with government assistance. You're just unhappy about not being able to get more by keeping even more of your money. And you're even unhappier when you get called on it. Typical pro-government "conservative"--you're just for the stuff that benefits you.

And one more thing--I support the ideals of the LP in a lot of ways. But I've always voted GOP. It's people like YOU that make it more likely that a pork-loving GOP Congress will get elected. That makes it ever more likely that Americans will vote differently next time, and then your glee at watching libertarians and fiscal conservatives unhappy at the huge imposition of government into American lives and failure of the GOP to do squat about it, will be followed by your own presence in the barrel--you big-government 'conservatives' wail and gnash your teeth, too, when you're taxed at ever higher levels for government you don't like.

225 posted on 09/17/2005 7:13:54 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, Raich and Roe-all them gotta go. Will Roberts change things? We all should know.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
"Hey butthead, how 'bout I call you a pompous moron who needs a government program to get his shoes tied? Did you drive to work today on a public road you lowlife government sponge?"

---Actually, not only did I drive on a public road, I went to work in a government building. However, since I did it in another country, I felt a lot better about it than I bet you do.

"I've known Ruthy for three years. And I know a lot more about her personal story than you'll ever be privileged to know. She works her backside off to provide for her family. And she does it without government handouts."

---Once again, you ignore the fact that government handouts are not only in the form of welfare and AFDC. Fools like you, who think that gummint money only comes in a check, are the reason Congress gets away with tinkering with the tax code instead of ending the income tax altogether.

"If you knew how she has personally fought for the cause of freedom in this country you would bow in awe."

---Someone as simultaneously clueless and pious as the two of you? Yeah, right. Don Quixote ain't got nothin' on y'all. You've already demonstrated you don't understand the point raised above, which is that claiming you've escaped being a gummint beneficiary if you have kids is for a 'low-income' person an unlikely statement at best. I sincerely doubt your evaluation of what constitues 'freedom-fighting.'

226 posted on 09/17/2005 7:33:41 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, Raich and Roe-all them gotta go. Will Roberts change things? We all should know.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Wow. Took you a whole day and a half to think up that response that was more insults than debate.

In the five and a half years that I have been a member of this forum, I've never encountered the level of rudeness and disrespect that I have seen lately. And you simply exemplify it.

Don't post to me anymore. You're simply not worth the time.

Have a nice "government-free" life.


227 posted on 09/17/2005 7:40:41 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Gabz
"When those of us who have been screwed by the system in a total opposite manner they claim is the norm, they turn around and attack us for being leeches at the government teat because we may just choose to utilize something the taxes we pay permit the government to provide"

I'm not gonna say I completely followed your statement, but the fact of the matter is that it's just fine to be for limited government and utilize government services, it's about the only chance you're going to get to even with the tax structure as it stands, and I will not begin to say otherwise. Where I have expended vitriol here is on the folks who attacked GS, who only pointed out that piety inasmuch as taking government funds is concerned is unlikely for anyone, and certainly unlikely for someone with children at the income level Ms. Dupree described. GS's comments were replied to vituperatively by someone who didn't like hearing the truth, and while GS can ably defend herself, posters here have every right to point out hypocrites when they see `em.

"Convenient conservatives make me ill."

Me, too. Which is why I don't like hearing people claim sainthood when they're sinners like the rest of us. I don't mind a sinner confessing, but I hate a Pharisee touting his own piety.

228 posted on 09/17/2005 7:46:04 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, Raich and Roe-all them gotta go. Will Roberts change things? We all should know.)
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To: RMDupree
"Wow. Took you a whole day and a half to think up that response that was more insults than debate.

Well, some of us work for a living. Sorry I can't sit with my subsidized rugrats at my feet and claim to be the embodiment of all things conservative at your leisure, but I earn a paycheck at a job where 18 hour workdays aren't out of the range of possibility. Sorry I didn't respond on your gummint-paid-for timetable.

In the five and a half years that I have been a member of this forum, I've never encountered the level of rudeness and disrespect that I have seen lately. And you simply exemplify it. Don't post to me anymore. You're simply not worth the time. Have a nice "government-free" life."

As usual, you wear your sanctimonious nature on your sleeve. When you are so dense as to miss the obvious point GS made, that claiming virtue in a lack of receipt of government largesse when you likely receive in the tens of thousands of such every year is sheer stupidity at best and hypocrisy at worst, I don't feel my time is particularly productively used posting to YOU. You took GS's comments as insult, when they weren't. On the other hand, some of mine were, but you certainly deserved them for your snippy little retort, and you fail entirely to respond to those comments that weren't because you CAN'T. Not because they were all insults--but because those that weren't were so on the mark that you cannot respond to them. I'm sorry it offends you so to have your own sinning pointed out, but don't run with the big dogs if you don't like gettin' bit, puppy, and don't try to beatify yourself if you can't handle listening to the devil's advocate.

229 posted on 09/17/2005 8:00:08 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Kelo, Grutter, Raich and Roe-all them gotta go. Will Roberts change things? We all should know.)
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To: LibertarianInExile; RMDupree
Since you don't know RMDupree, I suggest you refrain from assuming anything about her.

If you take your comments to their extreme, YOU are a 'welfare queen' too, if you use any government services.
There, how do you like it?

230 posted on 09/17/2005 8:49:38 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: LibertarianInExile

I don't even know what you are even talking about, but your rudeness comes through loud and clear. You are making it your primary message if that means anything to you. And, fwiw, your bad behavior is making libertarians look bad too. Which is a shame.


231 posted on 09/17/2005 8:55:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: LibertarianInExile; RMDupree; SuziQ; Gabz; Sam Cree

You're a moron AND a jerk. Whatever country you're in, I hope they keep you.

Your assinine comments don't deserve my time to respond point by point.

So, I'll just flush and send you on your way with the rest of the crap.


232 posted on 09/18/2005 8:17:50 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Well said!


233 posted on 09/18/2005 8:38:56 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Sam Cree

Thanks. It needed sayin'.


234 posted on 09/18/2005 8:45:59 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Sam Cree; SuziQ

235 posted on 09/18/2005 8:48:18 PM PDT by ecurbh (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Daggone - I was hoping to avoid having to revisit this thread - now I see I do.............


236 posted on 09/18/2005 9:14:22 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: TAdams8591
Maybe you can answer this question for me tomorrow. Why would you address a post to me AND yourself?

Because I was tired and forgot to double check my post.

237 posted on 09/18/2005 9:19:36 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: Feldkurat_Katz

Works for me, particularly since I am not bothered by anything you have to say.


238 posted on 09/18/2005 9:20:52 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I suggest you stay in exile


239 posted on 09/18/2005 9:26:33 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: LibertarianInExile; RMDupree; Corin Stormhands

Who the heck do you think you are to speak to any of us the way you have?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you said you worked in another country.....

If I am wrong I will offer my apologies, I expect you will be doing so just as quickly.


240 posted on 09/18/2005 9:33:03 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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