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1 posted on 08/02/2005 4:16:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 08/02/2005 4:17:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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I hate it when he throws bones to the fundies. Thumbs down on this one, Mr. Bush.
3 posted on 08/02/2005 4:21:44 AM PDT by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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Well, that settles it.

I will call the printers and get the new biology textbooks started.


5 posted on 08/02/2005 4:28:52 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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Evolution is no different than any religion
in that you have a bunch of facts you conclude
lead to evolution, but those facts don't prove
it.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 4:29:34 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters,

Well, I guess if true it's better he's saying it now then back in Sept-Oct 2004. I'm actually (thankfully) shocked it took this long for the reporters to question him about it. If I were a Liberal reporter out to get Bush and/or any other Republican I would have asked questions like this a long time ago.

Bush essentially endorsed efforts by Christian conservatives to give intelligent design equal standing with the theory of evolution in the nation's schools.

Now what exactly does "Essentially Endorsed" mean???

Methinks Bush probably gave the standard Republican dodge and the press is exaggeraging if not outright falsefying his statements.

7 posted on 08/02/2005 4:31:35 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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The theory of evolution, first articulated by British naturalist Charles Darwin in 1859, is based on the idea that life organisms [sic] developed over time through random mutations and factors in nature that favored certain traits that helped species survive.

I've seen worse stabs at summarizing, but the editor could have adjusted this somewhat nonstandard turn of phrase.

9 posted on 08/02/2005 4:34:17 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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i love how people are in such awe of nature yet fail to recognize how complex it really is. our small minds cannot comprehend how long the earth has been in existence let alone the age of our universe. sure, we may know the rough numbers but cannot comprehend how small an amount of time that, let's say, 10,000 years is. intelligent design IS nature.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 4:39:52 AM PDT by thefactor
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So the President doesn't believe in a total blackout to other theories, as some supporters of evolution do, and some people diminish his intelligence. Typical.

If evolution IS the Truth let it experience competition. Let the weaker theory fall. It works in economics. It works in the political sphere where conservative ideology is slowly becoming dominant.


14 posted on 08/02/2005 4:41:56 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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"I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought," Bush said. "You're asking me whether or not people ought to be exposed to different ideas. The answer is 'yes.'"

That's funny...that's exactly what the Clintons said about Heather Has Two Mommies.

16 posted on 08/02/2005 4:46:25 AM PDT by Physicist
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Another soul lost to the irrational myths of ID and creationism. I feel this country slowly sliding back into the superstitious middle ages.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 5:03:13 AM PDT by oldfarmer (Mark 16:17-18)
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One of Hollywood's greatest movies, 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY, clearly displays the intelligent design theory, or at least one possible version.

The notion of assisted evolution is as plausible as genetically engineered wheat, corn, farm animals, etc. that we are familiar with today.

34 posted on 08/02/2005 5:07:20 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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I love the President, but sometimes ...

Exactly.

46 posted on 08/02/2005 5:28:54 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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"I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought," Bush said. "You're asking me whether or not people ought to be exposed to different ideas. The answer is 'yes.'"

He's right.
49 posted on 08/02/2005 5:32:35 AM PDT by Liberty Valance ( Howdy!)
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I'm willing to defend him from the charge of being a live version of Alfred E. Neumann, but I do wish he wouldn't go out of his way to make it more difficult.


57 posted on 08/02/2005 5:46:34 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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Bush compared the current debate to earlier disputes over "creationism,"

Well, President Bush is certainly right about that. It's the exact same debate just under a patently transparent euphemism..

59 posted on 08/02/2005 5:52:03 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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Bush is wrong.


64 posted on 08/02/2005 6:01:20 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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68 posted on 08/02/2005 6:06:42 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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The Big Bang and Evolution take at least as much faith to believe as Creationism and Intelligent Design do. Why do folks get so upset when people feel that exposure to all the theories is recommended? Doesn't science require a full look at all the information/possibilities available? If you want to prove one, it seems it would be healthy to try to disprove alternates; how can you do that if you don't even allow a look at the alternates?


70 posted on 08/02/2005 6:09:53 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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I love the President, but sometimes ...

Yeah, but this'll have less impact than his other very occasional boners (e.g. steel tariffs).

74 posted on 08/02/2005 6:12:27 AM PDT by Stultis
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Always makes me smile when people are so arrogant (and somewhat silly) as to admit that there is still so much that we do not understand about the universe. But, without even pausing for breath exclude anything that can't be related to with the 5 senses or our limited capacity for understanding the physical things that do surround us. The arrogance is astounding.


89 posted on 08/02/2005 6:27:34 AM PDT by RetroFit
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