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The Hidden Truth About Joseph McCarthy
Accuracy in Academia ^ | January 2000 | Daniel J. Flynn

Posted on 07/09/2005 12:54:21 AM PDT by John Filson

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Did we ever find out if Murrow had more than sympathy for communists?
1 posted on 07/09/2005 12:54:21 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

ping


2 posted on 07/09/2005 12:54:39 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Filson
Although McCarthy is charged with a failure to distinguish between liberals and Communists, it was generally liberals, Herman points out, who couldn’t recognize the differences. It was Franklin Roosevelt, after all, who brought Alger Hiss to Yalta and Harry Truman who promoted Harry Dexter White to head the International Monetary Fund. Both Truman and Roosevelt entrusted these Soviet agents with top positions long after they had been told that Hiss and White were involved in espionage

Then I'm proud to be in the same company as ole Joe, because I've never been able to distinguish liberals from communist either.

3 posted on 07/09/2005 1:18:11 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Only in America do we have drive up ATM's with braille on them")
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I think there are liberals with good intentions and even good ethics. It's the liberals without one or the other (or neither) that really seem indistinguishable to me.


4 posted on 07/09/2005 1:23:32 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: lunarbicep

The Real McCarthy Record
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1996/vo12no18/vo12no18_mccarthy.htm


5 posted on 07/09/2005 1:25:43 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy" fills this space)
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To: endthematrix

great link... thank You


6 posted on 07/09/2005 1:37:51 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Only in America do we have drive up ATM's with braille on them")
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want to make a bumper sticker that reads, "McCarthy was right" in big letters and then in small letters below, "and so was Lt Calley"


7 posted on 07/09/2005 1:41:16 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: John Filson; wildcatf4f3
Is there a reason for posting this in the "smoky back room"? You will have greater numbers of response and more importantly readers in "breaking news".

Good idea about the bumper sticker. Did you know Lt. Calley?

"All that mattered was whose ox was being gored."
This is still how the liberals conduct politics.


JOE MACARTHY WAS RIGHT AND IT IS TRUE TODAY ...
THE GOVERNMENT IS FILLED WITH MANY COMMUNISTS.
especially the State department
8 posted on 07/09/2005 8:04:29 AM PDT by Countyline
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To: Countyline

Breaking news just didn't seem appropriate, heh! I don't mind. It's the quality of readers and responses that matter to me.


9 posted on 07/09/2005 8:14:55 AM PDT by John Filson
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You may be right that some liberals have good intentions and good ethics, but they all drink the KoolAid.
10 posted on 07/13/2005 6:49:12 PM PDT by YHAOS (Western morons are more dangerous than Islamic lunatics)
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Ideals are always accompanied by a point of diminished returns. Some people can't see that some of their ideals are trumped by other priorities.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 6:53:43 PM PDT by John Filson
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Ideals are always accompanied by a point of diminished returns. Some people can't see that some of their ideals are trumped by other priorities.

Yes, no doubt. And, some just drink the KoolAid [grin]

12 posted on 07/13/2005 7:05:51 PM PDT by YHAOS (Western morons are more dangerous than Islamic lunatics)
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To: Countyline

If Sen Joseph McCarthy was alive today he would simply say regarding communists in government, 'I told you so!'.


13 posted on 07/14/2005 2:19:08 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: lunarbicep
McCarthy had nothing to do with the House on UnAmerican Activities – yet to this day the myth is believed that he dragged innocent people in front of it. Too true that FDR was a disgrace and a communist. His administration was riddled with them. Under his watch the Soviets seized nuclear technology – with the aid of Communist party members within his own Administration. It took a Soviet defector in Canada to reveal that Soviet agents had deeply rooted themselves in America.
14 posted on 07/15/2005 2:44:09 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: John Filson; Tailgunner Joe

Good post - I'm sure TGJ will be interested. Thanks.


15 posted on 07/15/2005 2:53:01 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; WmShirerAdmirer
Good post - I'm sure TGJ will be interested. Thanks.... You're welcome. I didn't get a response back from WmShirerAdmirer, who inspired me to look into Edward R. Murrow's character assassination attacks on McCarthy with his profile. Yes, I think journalism was better in those days. But we didn't have blogging and the pajama cadre to crosscheck assumptions. Murrow was wrong. He was a liberal, what else can we say? They're predisposed to a certain inability to recognize true evil while they battle invisible threats.
16 posted on 07/15/2005 3:08:15 PM PDT by John Filson
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"I think there are liberals with good intentions and even good ethics."

These are the stooges. There are 3 levels: the inner circle is the inner group of hard core communists who know what they want and how to do it. Just outside that circle is a much larger group that has a clue of what's going on. The biggest group is the stooges. They have been persuaded somehow by the the 2nd group which could be the media, or whatever. The stooges have good intentions but they don't have a clue what they are really working for. It is from these stooges that the group grows larger but it is always guided by that inner circle.


17 posted on 07/15/2005 3:30:41 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Looks like we're going to have start working for a new "What A Country"?)
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My theory is a bit more subtle. I think our western ideals have serious limits. You can take any one of them too far. Would a nation with the values we have today, which are supposedly based on fairness, egalitarianism, and the Golden Rule have been able to settle the west? No. Would we even have been able to win WWII? I'm not sure about that! You're talking about symptoms. I'm talking about root causes. It's all about priorities. We have to choose: us or them. I choose us, meaning the survival of the west, the survival of America, and the core beliefs we hold about freedom's true source. Liberals are deluding themselves that they know better. They're living in a 'Dances with Wolves' fantasy world.


18 posted on 07/15/2005 3:35:07 PM PDT by John Filson
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I agree with you that "The Golden Rule" has to tossed out the window at times. Biblically, the "The Golden Rule was put aside for good reasons. Obviously when it's war you've got to. And your "us or them" I agree with too.

We the people of the United States can have our property confiscated under the guise of drug enforcement. Or that bogus recent SCOTUS decision. We can be arrested with no cause under the "Terrorist Act". The illusion is we have rights when we lawfully we don't have any. Is the government the root cause? I don't think so. There is a group operating under the idiots that we see running it. That is the inner circle calling the shots. Everthing is in place for a tyrannical government if it isn't already so. And I fear that unless we do whatever is needed including taking it to them with guns if necessary our nation as we know it is lost.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 4:29:47 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Looks like we're going to have start working for a new "What A Country"?)
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We're not lost yet. We have "conservatives" in the majority in Washington. We have forums, blogs, and E-mail. We have a president with SCOTUS appointments. And we have National Review, Weekly Standard, FOX News, World Net Daily, Rush Limbaugh, and Frontpage. We also have the second amendment in most parts of the US. This is a time for statesmanship and debate, a time for leadership. But as the Swiss illustrated for our Founding Fathers, free men must remain armed. It's more our duty now than ever.
20 posted on 07/15/2005 5:29:43 PM PDT by John Filson
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