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What It Costs to Live Well - Northeast
Forbes ^

Posted on 07/04/2005 9:04:00 PM PDT by Selkie

It's a question that plagues the successful and the aspiring: How much does a family need to net each year to lead a comfortable affluent life?

We are not talking about great riches; there are millions of Americans who work hard to be able to afford the best for their families--and themselves--but who don't entertain notions of owning private jets, sprawling country estates or closets full of the latest fashions. Their goals are more grounded: a good education for their children, a nice house, a weekend place, the occasional trip, a night out once a week and a little money in the bank.

We attempted to tally what it would take for a family of four to live well in different parts of the country, starting with every state in the Northeast. We looked at one city in each state and factored in a range of costs, including housing, cars, education, dining and health care.

So what does it cost to live well? We have the answer--or at least some ballpark figures. And it isn't cheap.

Our totals ranged from about $215,000 (for Portland, Me.) to a whopping half-a-million dollars (for, not surprisingly, New York City). And that's the net of local, state and federal taxes, and includes very little savings. Less-urban upper New England tended to be the least expensive place to live well, while medium-sized cities such as Baltimore and Philadelphia ranked in the middle, and the big metropolises and surrounding areas, such as New York, Boston and Greenwich, Conn., were tops when it came to costs.

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KEYWORDS: americandream; gauche; income; lavish; thegoodlife; upperclass; uppermiddle
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To: Age of Reason
Living well in New York City or any City is impossible at any price.

What a silly statement.

101 posted on 07/05/2005 11:24:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: hiredhand

I think you are out by the mountains, no? We were more coastal, inland; but more towards the coast.


102 posted on 07/05/2005 11:45:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

We're 35 miles due SOUTH of Danville VA. :-) Just about smack right in the middle of the state, but more toward the north. The mountains are a couple of hours to the west.


103 posted on 07/05/2005 11:52:36 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: hiredhand

Are you close enough for good trout fishing?


104 posted on 07/05/2005 12:09:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

It's about 3 hours to the mountains. Not too bad a drive. :-)


105 posted on 07/05/2005 12:27:24 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Selkie
We tabulated the annual costs for a family of four with one child in a private college and one in eighth grade and attending a private school

What utter crap. When did they buy their house? Car? What savings and investments to they have? What kind of lifestyle do they indulge in? When did they elect to pay for "private school" and a "private college" for their family to the exclusion of other necessities?

106 posted on 07/05/2005 8:21:31 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: driftless

IMO if your investment earnings aren't equal to your annual earnings by the time you are 40-45, you have made some poor investment choices. Who wants to work until they are 65 or 70?


107 posted on 07/07/2005 1:30:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: B4Ranch
IMO if your investment earnings aren't equal to your annual earnings by the time you are 40-45, you have made some poor investment choices.

Or didn't start investing soon enough...

...or paid your way out of debt first...

...or you make a LOT of money! etc.

Otherwise, Cheers!

108 posted on 07/10/2005 12:00:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Why would anyone find a 100k debt, say at 6% so tough when they can continue investing, making 15% probably. Pay off the debt, have established a financial record of positive investment, borrow another 250k, invest it and continue on the plus side.

I have always found it much more pleasing to earn money with loans from the bank, of course while continuing to invest my own.


109 posted on 07/10/2005 4:08:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: nutmeg

read later


110 posted on 07/11/2005 9:48:42 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Calpernia
Net Income After Taxes $359,300
Primary Home Cost $2,000,000
Annual Home Payments $110,996
Vacation Home Location Martha's Vineyard, Mass.
Vacation Home Cost $1,700,000
Annual Vacation Home Payments $94,404

LOL! OK, 3.7M worth of residential real estate on an annual income of 359K doesn't work. To plan sensibly, one's total real estate liability with that income should be about 1M, with annual payments in the neighborhood of 80-90K.

111 posted on 07/14/2005 12:39:01 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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