Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.
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They're prevalent here.
Some reporters have said that Arubans are afraid to cooperate with this investigation for fear of losing their jobs. You have two classes of society on Aruba -- the elite and everybody else. It would be interesting if one of their youngsters disappeared in similar circumstances. Would they simply sit and take it? "Gee, you're letting the men go who were with her last and who lied repeatedly about what they did that night. Okay. Oh, the father of one, a judge, has been obstructing justice? Let him go, too. Okay. I'll just sit here and hope bits and pieces of my daughter wash up on the tide. Oh, you're letting two more go? They can keep their passports and leave Aruba? Wonderful. Guess my daughter doesn't matter. Fine. I don't matter, either."
Or would they, like Natalee's family, hound the LE night and day, demanding justice?
This reminds me of that 'Mississippi Burning' movie with Gene Hackman, the story of those three civil rights workers who were beaten and shot and put in an earthen dam by the cops, KKK. Emmett Killen (Till?)-- whatever his last name is, that 80 year old killer, was finally sentenced to 60 years in jail for his part in the murders.
The same community mindset is alive and well in this case. Arubans want this to go away, they want Natalee's family to leave, they want life to go back to normal, with Americans once again spending big bucks on Aruba and not lifting rocks to see the evil on this island. They don't care that
an innocent 17 year-old is probably dead.
Well, if Joran goes to college in the US and disappears, a victim of foul play, (God forbid), it would be justice if the cops bungled the investigation, arrested the wrong people, then let guilty parties go despite their having lied repeatedly and obstructed justice. We could tell the VDS's to go home, what's wrong with their family? Maybe Joran was unhappy and ran away, maybe he committed suicide, yada, yada, yada." Would they like it? Probably not. But it's always different when it's your child. As it is, the VDS's prefer to have their probably guilty son walk free as a bird than face justice and reveal what he did with Natalee's body.
It certainly reveals what kind of character and integrity they have. None. They let Joran run wild, drink, do drugs, run around all night, drive without a license, gamble, and this is the result. He'll commit more violence. He's blamed his mother for this mess, saying that if she'd been home, he wouldn't have gone out. And presumably, Natalee wouldn't be dead and he wouldn't be in all this trouble. It's his mother's fault. Any psychologists care to dissect Joran's mindset?
Wasn't it the Prosecutor herself that stated that Mr. VDS has actively obstructed and interfered with the case? THAT speaks volumes to me Gary,what about you? Was it not the VDS's that were furiously attempting to "interview" all of Joran's classmates? These America bashers can bite my A$$!!
I think that radios station is behaving in a much more irresponisble manner than our media ever did regarding this story. I doubt that our media intentionally set out to make bad reports, even though there were times when they were give bad information.
There is no way to know, because one can contribute anonymously.
Fox news had an ex-FBI man on who's talked to the FBI down there, and they said they offered to help in any way, and Aruba has turned them down. It may be that Aruban LE is afraid foreign law enforcement help might compromise a case if they get enough evidence to hold a trial. But you'd think at least that they'd allow the FBI to search for Natalee, send down divers. If they found anything, they could tag it and let Aruban divers take over. Or make sure Aruban LE divers are with the FBI teams, etc..
Of COURSE I have heard of bodies being put in containers. The point, from the murderer's perspective, is that the body should never been seen again. If the container weighs it down, hides it from view from above, and keeps it under the sea, that's one thing. But if you have an easier option with the sharks...
I happily plead ignorant about drugs and their affects.
I didn't find it too unusual. Lots of guys prefer blue.
Sounds like the creep they picked up with Shasta in Idaho. It's always the fault of society, or Mother, or anything other than themselves.
Joran is a sociopath. He'll end up badly, no matter what happens with this case. But he'll probably rape a few more girls. When he's drunk, and when the Kalpoe bros. are drunk, they'll brag about what they did. Let's hope somebody takes notes and tells the cops.
Thanks. I'm waiting for an answer from the guy/gal who made the claim. It should be interesting......
Let's hope they sue the pants off the VDS's and Kalpoe bros.
But, they would have to strip the body because sharks don't eat clothing...and also, they don't eat hair and some it might wash ashore.
Offshore, I suggest a container would be best. Something like a 55 gallon metal oil barrel with an anchor in the bottom. Seal the top tight and puncture it so water can seep in.
If not that, I think an abandoned well on the island would be the ideal place to hide a body.
Good point and one I have thought of, too.
We never did get a good answer for why he chose to lie for strangers, though I suspect he was hoping for some sort of tip reward.
Maybe he was hoping to draw attention and now the negative attention for the islanders to band together.?
Did you notice Pepper that as SOON AS the Aruban authorities "cherry picked" this Curacao Judge, the case has done nothing but go SOUTH ever since??? How convenient and on top it they can say they brought in a Judge from a neighbouring Island to avoid the "appearance" of being partial!! In fact, it has done the complete opposite only it's made it harder to fight. This case and these Aruban authorities STINKETH!!
Joran has bragged in the past of having sex with American girls by using GHB.
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