Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5

Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

[TexKat]

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo

[zigzag]

"I'm only responding to you because I see that you're not a donor to this wonderful site. Maybe you should take time to contribute.Besides, you were asked to not bash this poor child and her family."

Just curious, how do you know which poster is or isn't a contributor to this site?

[Trust but Verify]

Still seems pretty thin to me. I could see using a helicopter, but not an F-18.

[Canadian Outrage]

Absolutely, it's the media that has kept this story alive and kept it from being "buried"!!

[GarySpFc]

Between this and the change in tune at the radio station, I'm wondering who might be behind what looks like orchestration against the investigation and against Natalee's family.

Then they are stupid. If they think Americans will overlook their foolish pranks, then they deserve to lose all of our business.

[TexKat]

Lol, how did you know!!

[Yaelle]

Thinking about this again. So you were thinking that she may have told her friends she was taking a cab back to the hotel, and Joran may have said, "I'll get us a cab" and signaled to his buddies the Kalpoes? Then she got in, thinking it was a cab, with Joran, and yelled happily out the window to her buds, and only in a couple of minutes did she notice they weren't going in the direction of her hotel.

And possibly she may by then have already taken a sip of Joran's beer or drink "You HAVE to try this!" which was not his at all but laced with roofies.

[Yaelle]

Thinking about this again. So you were thinking that she may have told her friends she was taking a cab back to the hotel, and Joran may have said, "I'll get us a cab" and signaled to his buddies the Kalpoes? Then she got in, thinking it was a cab, with Joran, and yelled happily out the window to her buds, and only in a couple of minutes did she notice they weren't going in the direction of her hotel.

And possibly she may by then have already taken a sip of Joran's beer or drink "You HAVE to try this!" which was not his at all but laced with roofies.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

If that shoe were on your foot, would you have said or done anything different than Beth? NSNR

[Yaelle]

Sorry -- the first time my post appeared empty. So I sent it again.

[Trust but Verify]

Whoa! I'd like to have the answer to that question as well. I guess we are going to start dictating what you are allowed to say here based on whether you're a contributor or not, or perhaps based on what size of contribution you make. Interesting.

[GarySpFc]

If Natalee were pulled UNWITTINGLY into a car, she would have been frantically upset. I thought she yelled Aruba Aruba! out the car window. I think she knew what she was doing when she got into the car. The Kalpoes would have definitely been involved in her murder and kidnapping if they kept driving.

Joran and his friends arrived at the club shortly before it closed. Then she told one of her MB friends she was going to the hotel by taxi. They saw her get in the car with Joran and then the two boys. Natalee stuck her head out the window and yelled, "Aruba, Aruba, WooHoo." It may just be she was slipped GHB prior to leaving.

[Canadian Outrage]

Uh, they didn't focus on the Kalpoe's and VDS's. They tried to pin it on two black security guards.

[TexKat]

Sorry to be blunt but why would they have put Natalee in a container? Wouldn't they prefer that all evidence was eaten by the sharks? Ghastly but something to think about?

No need to apologize. Have you not heard of bodies being found in containers, trunks, deep freezers, in pieces in suitcases, under floor boards, in crawl spaces, etc.. We talking criminals, murderers, irrational individuals. Remember BTK.

But then no one said Natalee was in a container, I think what was said was Equuasearch had found something that was interesting to them.

[the Deejay]

GHB?

[onyx]

Street name is "roofie"

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/RohypnolGHB.html

[Rippersnapper]

Yep, foreign trips like that can be a once in a lifetime trip for some people. A few years later I was asked to go on one of the trips as a chaperone, but the notice was too short to get away from work. :(

[the Deejay]

I plead total IGNORANCE ABOUT DRUGS.

lol....

[Canadian Outrage]

#214 - AMEN!!

[the Deejay]

Rohypnol looks like a word to unscramble.

[Rippersnapper]

And/or know the local yokel LE, would blow them off.

I thought someone posted information of the date rape drugs and that they state that the victims have no recollection when they are used. Which would help explain the low crime rapes umm rates. ;)