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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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KEYWORDS: autopsy; clearwater; euthanasia; fl; link; logansrun; presser; schiavo; schiavoautopsy; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; whitewash
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To: downtoliberalism
So the ME was there when it happened? I thought he was using medical science 15 years after the fact to determine possibilities. At least now I know there was a witness. Thanks. Can you also explain the cruelty of her death?
941 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:01 AM PDT by possumdawg (There are three types of people- those that can count and those who cannot)
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To: MarMema

Also, her initial EKG would show signs of hypokalemia. That is very reproducible and a reliable sign of hypokalemia. It might help dispell the idea that she was initially hypokalemic or if this was spurious.


942 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:06 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Kretek

Because we are human after all and even though we have faith, it is not a sin to be afraid, especially since Terri was being murdered. Wouldn't you be afraid if you were being murdered?


943 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:06 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: GB
My wife and I made the commitment to each other, and made it known to lots of other folks and are planning to have it drawn up legally so that there can be no doubt whatsoever of our intentions, that if one of us was in a situation like Terri was, the remaining partner would do what was done in this case. Does that make us death ghouls?

Starve each other to death? Why not shoot your bed-ridden partner - much quicker and far more humane?

944 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:13 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: pbrown

It's so simple to understand. Terri was murdered by court order.


945 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:17 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: Neets

At least we aren't seeing any more posts that Michael beat her and broke her bones. But the other lies continue.


946 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:23 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Lots of doctors said there was hope. At least you admit there was no living will and it was all whatever Michael wanted that you supported.And you do not seem to care at all that having her be alive would interfere with his new love life.... interesting position to have Peach.... Screw wive's rights- let the husbands decide it all! (sick)


947 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:40 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

"I wish I thought that also. I am beginning to think some of them would have no problem just sticking someone, even their own flesh and blood, in a corner until they died of whatever. I am sure if some of them seen my Grandma (who has alzheimers), they would want me to starve her to death. It is disgusting!"

Well, maybe you are correct, at least about SOME of them, particularly when it comes to the elderly.

As my great aunt said: People today are too self-indulgent and want the easy way out.


948 posted on 06/15/2005 10:59:46 AM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: Future Useless Eater

I find the lack of allowed witnesses to this autopsy to be the most telling about the results.


949 posted on 06/15/2005 11:00:02 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: downtoliberalism

Her brain did not weigh 6 grams. Please


950 posted on 06/15/2005 11:00:09 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Peach

"At least we aren't seeing any more posts that Michael beat her and broke her bones"

Hush, peach!


951 posted on 06/15/2005 11:00:23 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Texas Deb
I just thought it was a strange thing for the ME to even mention, as surely any drugs that might have been given to her at those times would NOT be present in her body after that long. It just seemed strange to me to even mention it, and then to say it was the PARENTS who were the ones present and not MS, really raises questions as to why he would bring it up.

This is your second post mixing the two issues together. With all due respect, they were addressed separately.

The ME said that they looked at various allegations that had been made, one being the injected with insulin charge, and found no evidence to support it. That had nothing to do with what was found in her body at the autopsy. I, too, heard the "parents" reference and I thought he said the charge had been certain items had been found when Michael Schiavo had visited but the records showed her parents had been visiting at the timeframe in question. There was nothing found to support the charge of any unauthorized injections being given whatsoever.

What he was referring to not being found in her system at autopsy was morphine as some had alleged she was being euthanized by morphine. He said she was not on a drip and had two suppositories, the last on March 26 and no traces of morphine had been found in her body.

952 posted on 06/15/2005 11:00:44 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: 8mmMauser

Are we now devining what this woman could not think.


953 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:01 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Peach
So he let her husband decide. Which he did, based on recommendations from doctors who told him there was no hope.

Decide to do what? Let her die? Or actively kill her? Read Judge Greer's order and tell me what happened here. He did NOT order the removal of artificial life support. He ordered that all hydration and nutrition be ceased.

954 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:04 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

The court of jurisdiction did not knuckle under to grandstanding, I'll admit that. It was not a time period that showed our government at it's most rational.

I certainly don't think rational law would have come of it, and I am glad it did not. These kind of laws, if they need altering, need to be debated by cool-headed people following sound, rational processes. I learned from this episode that there is a certain type of idealogue I NEVER want to see achieve too much power in this country.


955 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:18 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Spiff

Good point! I use the word ask where I mean ordered....


956 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:19 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Howlin

You are in complete denial; of course, if you actually found out the truth and accepted it, your reason for existing would disappear.
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"small group" hmmmm May I join? lol

Much Howlin truth spoken above. Perhaps people identify with something in their own lives, death of parent, etc that is transfixed on Terri's situation. Any shrinks around?

IMO, Terri needed to go be with the Lord L O N G ago or perhaps she was and only her body was with us.

We need to care this passionately about the living, our military, our country.



957 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: amutr22

He stated that PVS can not be proved or disproved by pathology alone. In other words it is still up for debate.


958 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:23 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

My information was in the Bradenton Herald if you'd care to do a search of their archives. They had a Terri Schiavo Day to celebrate her progress at Mediplex, Bradenton.


959 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:27 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Spiff
Starve each other to death? Why not shoot your bed-ridden partner - much quicker and far more humane?

And you think you're NOT trashing people in this discussion?

960 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:37 AM PDT by Howlin
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