Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas
What is happening to Free Republic Mr. Robinson? The Bush Haters and Republican Haters are getting louder and more daring by the hour. These phony conservatives who claim the Conservatism purity are savagely attacking President Bush and the GOP as bad as the worst liberals.
The Bash Bush feast is becoming a part of every thread. Everywhere you see Bush is a traitor, Bush wants to sell our sovereignty to Mexico, Bush is a liberal, Bush has no spine, Bush is destroying our economy, Bush is puppet in Vincent Fox hand, Bush is this Bush is that, everything wrong in this world is Bush fault.
Nothing but doom and gloom is coming from these phony conservatives. For them our economy is destroyed, liberals are controlling the government, the GOP will be finished by 2006, Mexico has invaded the US and changed its identity, China is superior to us, we are no more a superpower, and on and on and on. Every minor bump in the road is turned into a Mount Everest of catastrophe and disaster
Either Free Republic will remain the Premier political forum on the internet, a site to advance the real conservative cause and provide great and continuous support to our President Bush and the Republican Party, or it will be forum controlled by bitter and delusional phony conservatives who can never win on the ballot box, and come to FR to poison the atmosphere through their extreme kooky rhetoric and turn it into another Dummyland.
Enough is Enough.
Neither will do anything about this problem until their hand is forced by us, their citizen employers! IMHO
You have made quite a strong assertion. Can you provide any references to substantiate this?
It is simple political calculations, they just want to take this issue off the table before the 2006 midterm elections.
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Pardon me please, but the GOP and President Bush passed CRITICAL MASS on the border issue at least two months ago. 2006 will have many glowing, putrified, nuclear contaminated casualties laying all over the political power grid with fallout being in STAGE THREE of a national (political) disaster. Surprised? Surprises? No surprises here.
We've been throwing up flares, shouting from mountain tops, stopping traffic at rush hour, and telling the entire universe about this for over two years now.
To call the INVASION an immigration problem is like calling a slit throat a shaving cut. .... Jackie Juntti 4/2005
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I would like to respectfully ask you why, if you are so pro American and apparently love democracy, why did you not stay in your nation of birth and work there to bring freedom and democracy?
I love this land and would give my life to promote freedom and democracy. I would never leave the land of my birth, if everything went to hell, I'd stay here and fight to my dying breath.
This is a fascinating thread about the impact the illegal alien invasion has had / is having / will have on the GOP in '06 and '08.
#576 and #627.
Sometimes you have to one step back to make any progress. The GOP will never take immmigration or spending issues seriously as long as they keep getting elected.
As long as Border Security is handled as a political issure, those of us who live with it's dangers and damage on a daily basis will be angry.
My beautiful desert and mountains are now little more that sewers and garbage pits; the livelihoods of the ranchers in my communities are being destroyed; my neighbors are being attacked, assaulted, and killed; private property is stolen and destroyed; my local hospitals are being forced to cease offering emergency services; and my tax dollars are being spent to support lawbreakers.
And you expect me to accept this as a political issue? Not in my America, sir. No thank you, no thank very much.
The only reason they will do something before '06, is because they want to be re-elected. I am tired of "finger-in-the-wind" politicians waiting for turmoil before they take a stance.
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You, Mark Twain, and I tend to ask the same kind of questions.
This is a CONSERVATIVE forum. Not a Republican one.
Bush has done well on one major thing...the war.
Now
Gave 8 billion dollars to our enemy the NEA.
Prescription drug boondoggle
Open borders..terrorists are jumping through Mexico.
What is conservative about that?
Could have been Ted Kennedy doing these things.
 "Are there contradictions in our Worker's Paradise oppressing workers? Yes, but those contradictions are a good thing, since they will ensure that there will be a glorious dialectical materialist leap to a golden future utopia!" |
Is this stepping forward? (in the direction America should be going?)
In the sovereign nation of Mexico, if someone is deported and then returns, he gets a TEN YEAR prison sentence. Not a 17 times round trip ticket to commit more crimes.
My personal view of this particular issue is that Bush's bracero program was well-meant and sincere but probably still-born. I'm not against immigrants, I'm for them. But there are laws and controls about immigration that are very much within the rightful purview of the federal government, and it is unjust to expect immigrants from one country to respect them when immigrants from others are allowed to openly flout them.
People speak of "sealing the border" as if it were an easy thing to to - it isn't, and no one is going to snap his fingers and stop the flow of migrants. But clearly the effort expended at the current time is simply not up to the challenge.
Mind you, conservatives who do insist that the federal government do something about this are voting for a larger, more expensive, more pervasive government. That grates against a lot of conservative principles, and is justified only by a problem of considerable magnitude. The issue at hand is whether this problem has reached a magnitude that will justify more government. Clearly the consensus of people living in that area hints to me that it has.
It need not be all federal; indeed, state efforts in this regard should be strengthened - more local government is preferable, IMHO, to more federal government. Many in the federal government will fight that, some out of an elitist desire not to let locals subvert national policy for their own interest, and others out of the true conviction that it really is a federal issue when all is said and done. But that sort of internecine warfare does very little to address the problem.
There is also a partisan aspect to this that is a sad fact of modern politics. Republican strategists are reluctant to take courses of action that will alienate the Hispanic vote, especially now that it is trending their direction. Democrats are pushing for full voting rights for illegals out of the conviction that they will benefit from their numbers. Both of these positions are, in my view, short-sighted and sordid but they're an inescapable feature of practical politics.
So what's a thinking conservative to do? Petition the government insistently for one. Vote locally depending on the issue for another. Strengthen state and local efforts first. And let government at all levels know that inaction is no longer an option, and that the "vigilantes" are there for a pretty good reason.
Actually, we are cutting Bush a lot of slack. If John Kerry had won, and had implemented the policies Bush has, we'd be much harder on him. IMHO, you'd be right there with us.
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