Posted on 04/24/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Southern heritage buffs vow to use the Virginia gubernatorial election as a platform for designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month.
The four candidates have differing views on the Confederacy, an issue that has been debated for years in the commonwealth.
"We're not just a few people making a lot of noise," said Brag Bowling, a spokesman for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the oldest hereditary organization for male descendents of Confederate soldiers. "This is not a racial thing; it is good for Virginia. We're going to keep pushing this until we get it."
Each candidate recently shared his thoughts on what Mr. Bowling called a "litmus test for all politicians." Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine would not support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Former state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore would support something that recognizes everyone who lived during the Civil War.
Sen. H. Russell Potts Jr. and Warrenton Mayor George B. Fitch would support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Many past Virginia governors honored the Civil War or the Confederacy.
In 1990, former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first black governor, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, issued a proclamation praising both sides of the war and remembering "those who sacrificed in this great struggle."
Former Govs. George Allen and James S. Gilmore III, both Republicans, issued Confederate History Month proclamations. In 2000, Mr. Gilmore replaced that proclamation with one commemorating both sides of the Civil War -- a move that enraged the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, has refused to issue a gubernatorial decree on either side of the Civil War.
Mr. Kaine, another Democrat, would decline to issue a Confederate History and Heritage Month proclamation if he is elected governor, said his campaign spokeswoman, Delacey Skinner.
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The States were never sovereign as it pertains to being Nations.
They were sovereign in regards to forming the type of alliance they wanted as States, first a Confederation, then a Constitutional Union.
MOST southerners just want the central government to just GO AWAY & leave us ALONE/UNmolested.
Yea, I am sure that is what most Southerners want.
LOL!
I think most Southerners love this nation and are proud and happy to be Americans.
Why?
Scottish refers to where your ancestors came from.
What does that have to do with whether or not the States of the United States were ever sovereign nations?
That is why I blew past the comment, because it is meaningless.
Which one?
For the first, I cite Stephens Cornerstone Speech and can get more if needed.
For the second, there have been a number of posts that stated the slave was treated well etc.
Do you deny those things were posted?
You think the Federal Gov't is less tyrannical now then it was back in 1860?
I guess Nation-State as having a foreign policy eludes you.
No single State that attempted to leave the Union, had its own foreign policy or was recognized by any foreign nation as being a sovereign nation.
They became part of the Confederacy as States forming another Confederation/Union.
Those are facts which seem to elude you and the rest of your pro-Confederate compatriots who want to live in a fantasy world.
give us a few more USSC decisions like ROE & "gun control" & we MAY.
free dixie,sw
we southrons simply want to be LEFT ALONE.
fyi,the NEW rallying cry of dixie is:
GET OUT OF OUR LIVES AND LEAVE US ALONE!
free dixie,sw
So, the Federal gov't is less tyrannical now then it was in 1860?
Also, the first gun control laws began in the South.
NYC passed the first "gun control" laws.
as usual, you are WRONG.
free dixie,sw
Has your passport been revoked?
Any reason you can't find another country to live in?
Can't get your Confederate buddies together and find a desert Island somewhere and put up the Stars and Bars?
LOL! Beautiful....
I was more refering to the "many" you addressed.
I believe the point of the "slaves were treated good" posts was that slavery was NOT argued against in the Bible, and there was an "ethical scenario" cited.
Do you deny that the discussion was brought into the Bible?
http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/ah_039300_gunsandgunco.htm
Gun control, in the modern sense, was a fixture of the pre-Civil War Slave Codes designed to prevent a rebellion. These laws restricted all blacks both slave and free. Immediately after the war, laws were passed in the South to prohibit freedmen from owning firearms. But in response, civil rights legislation during Reconstruction made prohibition of black gun ownership impossible, so southern laws were rewritten to restrict pistols to the expensive "Army pistol." The effect was similar to a poll tax—it discriminated against both blacks and poor whites.
The discussion did go into the Bible and the principles of thou shalt not steal and do no harm to thy neighbor were brought up.
Then the Confederate apologists (such as yourself), said that slavery was not theft and that one was not harming slaves.(since they were in fact treated well)
Does that sum up the gist of the discussions?
Ofcourse, none of you would want to be slaves-now would you!
Nope. 'His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island & Providence Plantation, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia to be free, sovereign and independent states, that he treats them as such.'
The fact that each state RATIFIED separately disproves your assertion.
therefore, why should we go elsewhere????
once Le Republique Quebecois leaves Canada & Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan takes AZ,CA,CO, NM & NV out of the union, our leaving will hardly be noticed.
then, the remaining states of the USA can rename themselves something like:
"The United Peoples Socialist Multicultural Republik of Amerika".
there's plenty of room in North America for 6 FREE republics!
free dixie,sw
See what I mean about living in a fantasy world!
LOL!
They were now Independent from the British, and free to form their own national Government which they did under the Articles.
It is tough to rewrite history, but that doesn't stop the Confederates wannabes
Hey, Watie, when you get that Southern Republic, don't forget to pass those gun-control laws like they had in the 'good old days'
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