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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: mercy
YOU are the torturers. Not only Terri either. You are presently torturing every relative who has to face this terrible decision. A couple hundred times per day if estimates are accurate.

Yes, I'm sure poor Michael Schiavo grieves terribly as he spends that $1.5 miliion-dollar settlement, caresses his shack-up honey, and plans his next getaway to the Bahamas. I just weep for him.

You have this single issue that to you is the be all and end all of existence. Well ... it isnt. Not to 70% of Amarica and not to God Almighty.

Life and death...such a pesky, trivial little matter. Wiull you be repeating that the day "they" come for you? Oh, and I just love how you speak on behalf of God Almighty, too. You know, the One Who said "Thou shalt not KILL"?

Thank Him you are the powerless minority you are and now cemented into that position for decades to come.

No, the powerless minority are the Terris that we speak for--the "least of these My brethren".

341 posted on 03/29/2005 10:38:16 AM PST by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: mercy

My Cause ?????

I thought Imperious Judges was one of our Collective causes?

She shouldnt be giving her all. Her case should be being examined anew, as Congress Legislated.


342 posted on 03/29/2005 10:38:22 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "For your AMUSEMENT..." ; ))
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To: hobbes1
You would purport to tell us the intent of God?

Why not? We've been hearing for weeks what "Terri wants," even though she's been incapable of sharing her thoughts for years. There's so much channelling and mindreading going on, sometimes I think I've tuned into an episode of "Crossing Over" or "Medium."

343 posted on 03/29/2005 10:38:37 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Nearly 350 posts and nobody wants to discuss the merits of euthanasia. Still waiting...


344 posted on 03/29/2005 10:39:00 AM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: hobbes1

I am not against judicial reform.

I also think the Schindlers were outlawyered. Do you think there is a way to equitably protect people against the fact that some lawyers are better than others? (not a sarcastic remark. I wonder how they would have done with a lawyer as good as Johnny Cochrane, for instance.)


345 posted on 03/29/2005 10:39:44 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

How've you been?


346 posted on 03/29/2005 10:39:50 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: PatrickHenry

But didn't you get the memo? Autopsy results showing anything other than - (1) a completely functional cerebral cortex suffering only from years of neglectful abuse and lack of rehab and (2) severe skeletal trauma matching perfectly in size and shape a one-of-a-kind custom baseball bat owned by Michael Schiavo - is obviously the result of the medical examiner and George Greer splitting up the proceeds of a ponzi scheme run by Felos.


348 posted on 03/29/2005 10:40:34 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Drango
Looks like somebody got an attitude adjustment by those polls.

Perhaps some of those Congress critters will get in their respective bunkers and shut up for a while.

349 posted on 03/29/2005 10:40:51 AM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset when I ignore you, my plan is working)
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To: retrokitten

Oh, boy...if you have time, go here and start reading at post #60...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1370047/posts


350 posted on 03/29/2005 10:41:23 AM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
The fact is they weren't outlawyered in the Federal Courts.

Read the 3 Member denial. Read the Majority carefully, as they twist through linguistic hoops to undo the Logic Judge Wilson bound them in in his dissent.

They read like ex post facto justifications.
351 posted on 03/29/2005 10:42:14 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "For your AMUSEMENT..." ; ))
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To: Long Cut; All
Welcome, and my sympathies for your state.

Thanks! We managed a Pubbie governor this time (only because the Dem candidate was a really ditzy Kennedy cousin) but he is having a really hard time accomplishing much because of the overwhelming percentage of Dems in the legislature.

I have been in the other SBR Terri thread for a while because I am interested in facts rather than shrill ranting that is everywhere on the main board. Thank you to everyone in the WPPFF for providing good information and patiently answering my occasional dumb question.

352 posted on 03/29/2005 10:42:42 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks; mercy

Did someone say injuns? I'm an injun. Darn those Feds. They get into everybody's life and culture. So we can't torture or take scalps anymore.
But it is interesting to hear the viewpoints from other cultures.


353 posted on 03/29/2005 10:42:49 AM PST by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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To: hobbes1
Congress passed legislation making this a federal case. The federal court then reviewed it, and decided against the Schindlers.

The pro-Terri forces got what they wanted...another court reviewing the case. It didn't go quite how they wanted.

Tell me, would ANY result other than an order to reinsert the feeding tube have been acceptable? If you wanted a pre-ordained result, why even have courts?

Such would have been a Kangaroo court.

354 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:07 AM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That very same thing bothers me deeply. How do we prevent people from simply buying the result they want out of the judicial system?


355 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:11 AM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Long Cut

If this is a witness protection program for us sane freepers, are you supplying new aliases?


356 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:17 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ravingnutter

And I can find article that debunk a lot of that. What's so interesting is to hear the so called neurologists and other doctors who say they've reviewed the records and who claim that a PVS condition cannot be diagnosed without an MRI but they seem unaware that Terri had experimental surgery to stimulate brain activity.

She had electrodes implanted in her brain; the older kind of electrodes they used in the early 90's make her ineligible for an MRI.


357 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:39 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: verity
"How can you type with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears?"

Voice activated keyboard. Got one?

358 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:42 AM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset when I ignore you, my plan is working)
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To: mercy
God must want Terri to come home. After all ... not a sparrow falls ....

Now this is rich. Next you'll be saying that God told Michael Schiavo, George Feros, and Judge Greer to let Terri die.

359 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:42 AM PST by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I agreed with my mother's decision, which she made after discussing it with my siblings and me. Apparently, I have to restate this, just so you'll understand: if I had been the one with the legal authority to make the decision regarding my father's feeding tube, I would have told the nursing staff NOT to remove it.

Many who disapprove of withdrawing feeding tubes from patients who are not terminally ill still disapprove of the hysteria, hyperbole, false accusations, meanspiritedness, unchristian attitudes and hatefulness expressed on other Terri Schiavo-related threads. Your comments are reprehensible.

360 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:53 AM PST by mountaineer
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