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Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on Jerusalem
Ha'aretz ^ | 6 February 2005 | Aluf Benn, Haaretz Staff, and Agencies

Posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:43 PM PST by anotherview

Last Update: 06/02/2005 20:55
Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on J'lem
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent Haaretz Staff and Agencies

Prime Miniser Ariel Sharon and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ahead of their talks in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(AP)

Condoleezza Rice laying a wreath at the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(Reuters)

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sunday met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and President Moshe Katsav, and urged them to maintain the status quo over Jerusalem, and avoid taking any unilateral steps on the disputed capital which could harm Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. Israeli sources said Rice was referring to the government's decision from last summer to apply the absentee property law to tens of thousands of dunams (acres) of Palestinian property in East Jerusalem. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz last week instructed Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order an immediate halt to the application of the law. The sources said Rice may also have been referring to the decision to build the separation fence in Jerusalem, and to expand Jewish neighborhoods in the city.

Rice said Sunday that the disengagement plan is an historic opportunity, and that the future security of Palestinians and Israelis will be ensured only by two states exisiting side by side.

In an interview with TV Channel 2 Rice emphasized the importance of direct contact between Israeli and Palestinian negotiators, and minimum involvement of mediators such as the U.S.

When asked about the right of return for Palestinian refugees, the secretary of state said that while new demographic realities since 1967 must be taken into account, the parties must reach an agreement accommodating to the needs of them both.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, who was the first Israeli official to meet with Rice on Sunday, told the secretary of state, "Israel will not relinquish its sovereignty over Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem will be left to the final status agreement, but we have to intention to harm the Palestinians."

Rice also said that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan must be implemented without delay, and carried out according to its timetable. She told Shalom that Abu Mazen [Abbas] was elected through democratic elections and he needs as much help as possible to give a firm basis to his leadership. Shalom responded that "the pain of the settlers [to be evacuated under the plan] must be understood and empathy must be shown. These people do not know where they will live or where they will work.

Rice arrived in Israel in an optimistic mood Sunday afternoon, as she prepared for talks with Israeli and Palestinian officials two days before the first official Middle East summit since the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat last November.

Her first stop was a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, where she laid a wreath inside the Hall of Remembrance.

She then met with Shalom, followed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. She is also due to meet President Moshe Katsav later Sunday.

Ahead of their meeting, Sharon said he was sure his talks with Rice would "contribute to the friendly relations between the two countries." Sharon said he also expected her visit to contribute to the peace process, "which we want to very much want to push forward in the region."

In response, Rice said U.S.-Israel relations were solid "because we share not just interests but values." She said her goal was to "try to advance the cause of peace and to overcome the scourge of terrorism."

Before meeting Shalom, Rice said, "we will ask of our partners and our friends in Israel that Israel continues to make the hard decisions that must be taken in order to promote peace and... the emergence of a democratic Palestinian state.

"This is a time of optimism because fundamental changes are underway in the Middle East as a whole," she added.

After their meeting, Shalom told Channel 2 television that he gave Rice Israel's demands of the Palestinians.

"If the Palestinians do not to everything to halt the smuggling of weapons through tunnels, close the tunnels, close the weapons workshops, gather up illegal weapons - we would simply be giving the violent groups time to regroup and then carry out terror attacks that could collapse the whole process," he said.

On Monday, Rice will travel to the West Bank city of Ramallah for talks with Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia.

Tuesday's summit, hosted and initiated by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in the resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh, will be attended by Sharon, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan's King Abdullah.

Although the U.S. has said that the secretary of state will not attend the talks, her agenda is likely to include in part a review of the plans for the summit.

Rice has signaled she prefers to see Sharon and Abbas make progress as free of foreign mediation as possible.

"I hope we would all get into a mind-set that says if the parties are able to continue to move on their own, that's the very best outcome," Rice told reporters en route to Ankara, the stop before Israel.

Preparations for the Egypt summit are being finalized, but not before her arrival.

Israeli officials assessed that the secretary of state would commend both sides on their recent efforts.

Paul Patin, a spokesman of the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, said Rice would bring up a wide range of issues, including Israel's commitment under the internationally backed road map peace plan to dismantle dozens of unauthorized West Bank settlement outposts and Israeli gestures to the Palestinians, such as the removal of Israeli checkpoints that disrupt Palestinian travel - gestures that would bolster confidence in the new Palestinian leadership.

"Outposts are something that they promised to remove years ago and we expect them to abide by their commitments," Patin said.

She is also expected to call on the Palestinians to do more to restore security and bring an end to violence.

For their part, the Americans are trying to play down Rice's absence from the Egyptian summit.

"It is not necessary to participate at the highest level in every gathering in order to be a major player and part of the solution," a State Department spokesman explained Saturday.

In Israel, police raised their level of operations in various regions around the country Sunday, in anticipation of Rice's arrival and the run-up to Tuesday's summit.

Police decided to bolster forces around the country and checkpoints were set up between the seam line and various Israeli cities. Police will conduct both regular and undercover patrols.

Sharon may invite Mubarak Israeli officials, meanwhile, said Sunday that Sharon may invite his Egyptian counterpart to visit Israel during Tuesday's summit, as relations between the former enemies continue to flourish.

The invitations "is quite likely," said an unnamed official. "We would very much like him to come."

In recent months relations have improved as Egypt took a larger role in mediating between Israel and the Palestinians. The last visit by an Egyptian leader to Israel was by Mubarak in 1995, when he came to the funeral of assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.


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KEYWORDS: arielsharon; condoleezarice; disputedcapital; israel; jerusalem; palestinians; peaceprocess; rice; shalom; sharon; silvanshalom; unilateralsteps
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To: anotherview

I can give you more than $4 billion reasons why the US should be able to tell the Israelis how to behave if it is US interest to see stability emerge in that portion of the middle east. IF you don't like it write us a refund check!


21 posted on 02/06/2005 2:04:44 PM PST by Huntingtonian
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To: anotherview

BTW, this puts GWB's refusal to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem in a different light. It was a campaign promise in 2000. OK, the case can be made that he had zero foreign policy experience, and simply changed his mind in July, 2001. 9/11 may have changed things. But as a foreign policy veteran he made the same promise in the 2004 campaign, and reversed himself six weeks after the election. He may well have other things in mind for Jerusalem.


22 posted on 02/06/2005 2:04:50 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Huntingtonian
I can give you more than $4 billion reasons why the US should be able to tell the Israelis how to behave if it is US interest to see stability emerge in that portion of the middle east. IF you don't like it write us a refund check!

If Israel gets the Sinai back, for a third time, I bet she'd write the check gladly.

23 posted on 02/06/2005 2:05:52 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: anotherview

Israel should tell Condi and Bush to get lost. They're as wrong on this one as on our porous borders.


24 posted on 02/06/2005 2:06:18 PM PST by Luke21
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To: anotherview

It takes two to cut a deal. Israel has to decide what is in its best long term interest. If Abbas gets reasonable, offering up something that takes into account Israel's physical and demographic security, and Israel says screw you however, it might undermine US support for Israel, and then the nation will be truly alone.


25 posted on 02/06/2005 2:08:30 PM PST by Torie
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To: anotherview

Powell - Rice Both just a mouthpiece for the administration, only Condi wears stiletto heels to match her tongue.


26 posted on 02/06/2005 2:09:20 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge - and on my knees - Ouch! Sorry.)
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To: Torie
It takes two to cut a deal. Israel has to decide what is in its best long term interest. If Abbas gets reasonable, offering up something that takes into account Israel's physical and demographic security, and Israel says screw you however, it might undermine US support for Israel, and then the nation will be truly alone.

From what I can see, the only ones saying "screw you" here are the palestinians. Israel is bending over backwards. Mazen refused to disarm terrorists, his first obligation under the Road Map he speaks of so frequently.

27 posted on 02/06/2005 2:10:51 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: anotherview
It is not wise, imo, to be ungrateful to your major supporter - the good ol USA. If you don't want "advice" from us - then maybe you don't want assistance or support from us either?

Perhaps you don't want anymore American financial, military or politcal aid?

I have been a big supporter of Israel. But I found your post offensive.

28 posted on 02/06/2005 2:12:23 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: SJackson

Correct, for now. Right now, Israel still has space. But if Abbas can tame the militants, or be viewed as making the best effort he can, and offers up some peace plan that is not DOA for anyone who views Israels continued existence over time as a litmus test, than the dynamic changes. Israel effectively bouncing out most of the Arabs in Jerusalem is not something that will fly in any peace deal.


29 posted on 02/06/2005 2:14:44 PM PST by Torie
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To: SJackson
"He may well have other things in mind for Jerusalem."

What do you think that could be? Do you think it entails turning our backs on Israel? During the last 4 years, I have come to the conclusion that a palestian state cannot work-because the "palestinians" won't settle for that. Why are the concessions not being demanded from them-IMO, Israel has conceded plenty.

30 posted on 02/06/2005 2:15:29 PM PST by Annie03
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To: xm177e2

"If Israel wants our money, it will dance to our tune. If it wants to be independent, we wouldn't stop it from walking away."

Yes, just like Egypt dances our tune, right?

Oh, they don't?

When's the list time we criticized them for it?

Never?


31 posted on 02/06/2005 2:16:04 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: Yehuda
We expect a lot more Arab lip-flapping while we make Israelis die less secure...
32 posted on 02/06/2005 2:16:52 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: Luke21

Get lost and take their money with them?


33 posted on 02/06/2005 2:17:14 PM PST by notigar
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To: Annie03

The Palestinians need basically to accept the Barak deal, less a bit of land here and there perhaps near the 1967 border. That is the end game.


34 posted on 02/06/2005 2:17:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Israel effectively bouncing out most of the Arabs in Jerusalem is not something that will fly in any peace deal.

Who has suggested "bouncing most of the Arabs" out of Jerusalem? They're Israeli citizens. The only bouncing that would happen is Jews out of the free and democratic Palestinian State, including a Palestinian Jerusalem, which of course will be Jew free. East Jerusalem was offered and turned down.

35 posted on 02/06/2005 2:18:11 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: A Jovial Cad

Yep, as soon as they get in there the diplomats start telling them you can't say this and you can't say that...


36 posted on 02/06/2005 2:19:16 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: xm177e2

It may come to that. And then all bets on restraint are off.


37 posted on 02/06/2005 2:19:52 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: SJackson
Get real. The Israeli economy is nowhere near the size it would need to be to sustain their current level of military spending. You could give them the Sinai (if the Egyptians and their 80+ million population didn't come pouring over the canal), but without US aid Israel would be in big trouble, bankrupt or gone. The US has leverage to ask Sharon to do the Macarena with Abbas if we want to. Right now we NEED stability in the region its time for the Israelis to toe the line.
38 posted on 02/06/2005 2:20:07 PM PST by Huntingtonian
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To: SJackson
The bouncing was implied by taking Arab homesteads in Jerusalem. The Arabs are being squeezed in Jerusalem. And yes, it was offered in the Barak deal as you say, but then Arafat was Arafat. In some sense, I think team Sharon appreciated Arafat.
39 posted on 02/06/2005 2:20:34 PM PST by Torie
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To: anotherview; Yehuda; Quix; Jeremiah Jr
my fear that the Bush administration is turning on Israel.

You are much too generous. In order to turn, the administration must have had a previous viewpoint. More like a previous, friendly visage.

40 posted on 02/06/2005 2:20:43 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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