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Out of control at Camp Crazy! (Girl soldiers Gone Wild)
New York Daily News ^ | February 5, 2005 | BRIAN KATES

Posted on 02/06/2005 6:45:18 AM PST by presidio9

In front of a cheering male audience, two young women wearing only bras and panties throw themselves into a mud-filled plastic kiddie pool and roll around in a wild wrestling match.

At one point a man in the audience raises a water bottle and douses the entwined pair.

At another, a "referee" moves in to break up the scantily clad grapplers.

A young blond lifts her T-shirt to expose her breasts. A brunette turns her back to the camera and exposes her thong undies.

These scenes, taken from 30 photos leaked to the Daily News, could have been snapped at an out-of-control frat party.

But this happened a world away from any American college.

The photos were taken in Camp Bucca, the military prison at Umm Qasr in the hot sands of southern Iraq near the Kuwaiti border.

The women are not coeds but military policewomen who had left their uniforms in a pile not far off.

The men are soldiers, too. Most of them wore T-shirts emblazoned with Army logos, but at least one was still wearing his uniform.

Some were sergeants, including the referee, and some allegedly were drunk.

The photos were taken last Oct. 30, in the same period when enemy detainees were being transferred to Camp Bucca from Abu Ghraib, the prison made notorious by photos of Americans torturing naked Iraqis.

The Camp Bucca pictures document no such abuses.

But they do show what experts called a disconcerting lapse in discipline at a time when Army brass was touting the camp as a model of reform.

"It was basically a goodbye party for those of us who were leaving and a welcome party for those coming in," the alleged referee, Sgt. Emil Ganim of the 160th Military Police Battalion, told The News. "It was a chance for people to blow off some steam before coming home after spending a year in a combat zone."

But one participant described less-benign behavior.

Two sergeants, she said, told her "they had been lending out their room for soldiers to have sex" - a serious infraction of military regulations.

One female soldier, a prison guard with the 160th Military Police Battalion, was photographed baring her breast and showing off her thong panties.

The picture apparently was taken in the room of one of those sergeants, an investigator reported.

The witness told investigators that two high-ranking noncommissioned officers, a first sergeant and a master sergeant, were present. She "noted that these NCOs had been drinking and were noticeably drunk," the report said.

Ganim said American civilians at the camp also participated in the party, and "if anybody had liquor, it was them."

Ganim has since returned to his civilian job as a deputy sheriff in Leon County, Fla.

"It appears that this event was allegedly coordinated by NCOs [sergeants] of the 160th," according to the initial investigation.

One of the soldiers told investigators the mud-wrestling match was underway when she arrived.

"She took off her uniform and joined the other female soldiers that were wrestling," the report says. But "once soldiers started asking for the females to expose themselves [she and two of the other wrestlers] put their uniforms back on and left the area."

But at least one woman was not deterred.

Deanna Allen, a 19-year-old prison guard with the 105th MP Battalion, smiled and lifted her T-shirt. Photos show a man standing close to her and leering at her breasts while another G.I. snaps pictures.

"From what I understand they dared her to do it," said Allen's grandmother, Luci Tomlin, in Black Mountain, N.C. "It was a loose moment. She is a strong-headed young lady. Sometimes she can be a little irrational."

Allen, who is still stationed in Iraq, did not respond to E-mailed questions from The News. She was demoted in rank to private first class.

"A sex party with alcohol that is prohibited would suggest a serious breakdown of military discipline," said Washington-based lawyer Eugene Fidell, a military-justice expert. "Just how it would be handled would be determined by the commander, who has very broad discretion in situations like this.

Fidell said punishments could range from "a good chewing out to loss of rank" for enlisted personnel and "a letter or career-killing transfer" for officers who allowed it to happen.


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To: Darksheare
That should be an amera.
22 posted on 02/06/2005 6:56:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: presidio9
"From what I understand they dared her to do it," said Allen's grandmother, Luci Tomlin...

And from my dear old departed grandmother:

"If (whoever) dared you to jump off the cliff, would you?"

Don't make excuses for her behavior, granny, she's a growed woman.

Perhaps you should look in the mirror.

23 posted on 02/06/2005 6:57:31 AM PST by OldSmaj (Jihad this, Islam! Your religion is false and your god is non-existent! Come get me.)
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To: presidio9

Since when does a liberal New York newspaper worry about something like this.


24 posted on 02/06/2005 6:57:31 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: presidio9
This is the best recruiting poster *ever*



26 posted on 02/06/2005 6:59:19 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: E Rocc

I don't see how anyone can defend this sort of behavior by our armed forces. I find their behavior disgusting and think all those involved should be dishonorably discharged immediately.


27 posted on 02/06/2005 6:59:24 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Darksheare

28 posted on 02/06/2005 6:59:41 AM PST by presidio9 ( We're American soldiers. We've been kicking ass for 200 years. We're ten and one.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
You're joking, right? Is it the sex or the alcohol that is unprofessional?

They gotta decompress somehow. Nobody was hurt and I don't see any innocent Iraqis with panties on their heads so what is really the big deal here?

Hate to break it to you but soldiers have been getting ahold of illegal alcohol and having sex for hundreds of years.

Being an NCO brings with it some serious responsibilities. One is being careful to avoid fraternization. THAT is what the problem is here. I don't consider what the story describes as a good example of Lead By Example.

29 posted on 02/06/2005 6:59:57 AM PST by Fury
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To: presidio9
Two sergeants, she said, told her "they had been lending out their room for soldiers to have sex" - a serious infraction of military regulations.

Anyone can be a sergeant. It takes guts, discipline and character to be an NCO. You know what we need? We need the Army to transform itself into combat brigades that have female hooker platoons equipped with tactical field bordellos. We could call them "What's Your Pleasure" Platoons or maybe Stress Reduction Control Nodes.

First Lyndie England at Abu Ghraib, now this. Anyone see a trend? Do we really want to pattern our Army after the Dutch model?

30 posted on 02/06/2005 7:01:26 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Fury
Those involved should be punished. There's no place for this unprofessional conduct in the military.

I disagree. The ones who leaked these photos and this story are the ones who should be punished.

Unless this event occurred on duty, who gives a hoot? Those folks, more than any others in America, deserve to blow off steam.

31 posted on 02/06/2005 7:01:53 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ChadGore

Catch you later. I'm on my way to my local recruitment office. Got any singles?


32 posted on 02/06/2005 7:02:00 AM PST by presidio9 ( We're American soldiers. We've been kicking ass for 200 years. We're ten and one.)
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To: presidio9

I'm still not seeing a problem.


33 posted on 02/06/2005 7:02:32 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: presidio9
But they do show what experts called a disconcerting lapse in discipline...

Well, as long as the bras and panties match, I don't think it's the end of the world.

Now, white bra, black panties? End of the world.

34 posted on 02/06/2005 7:02:39 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: presidio9

Well, it sounds like it's being handled fairly. I'm honestly not very surprised. Too many people fall into the "warrior monk" illusion of the U.S. Military. That doesn't happen. A lot of these support jobs are far closer to their civilian counterparts than anything in the Army. And as for them being MPs, well, that REALLY doesn't shock me.

They had their fun, now they got caught. Prepare to face the consequences. The only outrage I'd have felt over this story is if jail time had been involved.


35 posted on 02/06/2005 7:02:50 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Stupid grandma leaver-outers!"--Tom Servo)
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To: xcamel

G-R-O-A-N!!!!!!!! Bad Punster Bad.


36 posted on 02/06/2005 7:03:26 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: presidio9
I am Shocked, Shocked that early twenties Americans in the military sometimes act like early twenties Americans in college.

BIG FRENCHING DEAL

They were just blowing off a little harmeless steam in a stressful situation.

If the soldiers involved figure out what prig leaked a video, after being pruriently enough interested to make it, they should treat him to a blanket party.

So9

37 posted on 02/06/2005 7:03:35 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Fury
Sergeants can't fraternize with their soldiers? When did that happen? I can see Commissioned officers can't fraternize but I never heard of sergeants.
38 posted on 02/06/2005 7:04:09 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Darksheare

Morale officer re-run Stripes one time to many?


39 posted on 02/06/2005 7:04:28 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: presidio9

what kind of medal are they awarded for getting the pin?


at least they're not committing genocide by putting panties
on terrorist heads.(sarcasm)


40 posted on 02/06/2005 7:05:09 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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