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Out of control at Camp Crazy! (Girl soldiers Gone Wild)
New York Daily News ^ | February 5, 2005 | BRIAN KATES

Posted on 02/06/2005 6:45:18 AM PST by presidio9

In front of a cheering male audience, two young women wearing only bras and panties throw themselves into a mud-filled plastic kiddie pool and roll around in a wild wrestling match.

At one point a man in the audience raises a water bottle and douses the entwined pair.

At another, a "referee" moves in to break up the scantily clad grapplers.

A young blond lifts her T-shirt to expose her breasts. A brunette turns her back to the camera and exposes her thong undies.

These scenes, taken from 30 photos leaked to the Daily News, could have been snapped at an out-of-control frat party.

But this happened a world away from any American college.

The photos were taken in Camp Bucca, the military prison at Umm Qasr in the hot sands of southern Iraq near the Kuwaiti border.

The women are not coeds but military policewomen who had left their uniforms in a pile not far off.

The men are soldiers, too. Most of them wore T-shirts emblazoned with Army logos, but at least one was still wearing his uniform.

Some were sergeants, including the referee, and some allegedly were drunk.

The photos were taken last Oct. 30, in the same period when enemy detainees were being transferred to Camp Bucca from Abu Ghraib, the prison made notorious by photos of Americans torturing naked Iraqis.

The Camp Bucca pictures document no such abuses.

But they do show what experts called a disconcerting lapse in discipline at a time when Army brass was touting the camp as a model of reform.

"It was basically a goodbye party for those of us who were leaving and a welcome party for those coming in," the alleged referee, Sgt. Emil Ganim of the 160th Military Police Battalion, told The News. "It was a chance for people to blow off some steam before coming home after spending a year in a combat zone."

But one participant described less-benign behavior.

Two sergeants, she said, told her "they had been lending out their room for soldiers to have sex" - a serious infraction of military regulations.

One female soldier, a prison guard with the 160th Military Police Battalion, was photographed baring her breast and showing off her thong panties.

The picture apparently was taken in the room of one of those sergeants, an investigator reported.

The witness told investigators that two high-ranking noncommissioned officers, a first sergeant and a master sergeant, were present. She "noted that these NCOs had been drinking and were noticeably drunk," the report said.

Ganim said American civilians at the camp also participated in the party, and "if anybody had liquor, it was them."

Ganim has since returned to his civilian job as a deputy sheriff in Leon County, Fla.

"It appears that this event was allegedly coordinated by NCOs [sergeants] of the 160th," according to the initial investigation.

One of the soldiers told investigators the mud-wrestling match was underway when she arrived.

"She took off her uniform and joined the other female soldiers that were wrestling," the report says. But "once soldiers started asking for the females to expose themselves [she and two of the other wrestlers] put their uniforms back on and left the area."

But at least one woman was not deterred.

Deanna Allen, a 19-year-old prison guard with the 105th MP Battalion, smiled and lifted her T-shirt. Photos show a man standing close to her and leering at her breasts while another G.I. snaps pictures.

"From what I understand they dared her to do it," said Allen's grandmother, Luci Tomlin, in Black Mountain, N.C. "It was a loose moment. She is a strong-headed young lady. Sometimes she can be a little irrational."

Allen, who is still stationed in Iraq, did not respond to E-mailed questions from The News. She was demoted in rank to private first class.

"A sex party with alcohol that is prohibited would suggest a serious breakdown of military discipline," said Washington-based lawyer Eugene Fidell, a military-justice expert. "Just how it would be handled would be determined by the commander, who has very broad discretion in situations like this.

Fidell said punishments could range from "a good chewing out to loss of rank" for enlisted personnel and "a letter or career-killing transfer" for officers who allowed it to happen.


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To: Darksheare

Rec Tent vids need to be replaced with Disney Movies to sort of tame things down a bit. John Wayne vids would be ok too.


101 posted on 02/06/2005 7:30:14 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: presidio9
The Church Lady contingent of FR is out in force today.

Please, please please spare me your condenscending moral revulsion at young Americans acting like young Americans! Compare them and their actions to what your parents and grandparents did to blow off steam in Vietnam, Korea, and WWII, if you dare.

Seriously, get a grip. We're not talking about drugs or prostitution. The only problem here is that such unrealistical high expectations are placed on our young soldiers, that anything less than sitting in church (or perhaps a non-denominational interfaith study group) will be seen as inappropriate.

So sit behind your comfy keyboards and moralize to your hearts content. If this is the worst the media can dredge up, then our current batch of soldiers today are the most well behaved in history.

102 posted on 02/06/2005 7:30:17 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Servant of the 9

I have been a "youth" and I have children 18 and 20 and I do NOT consider this normal behavior. But maybe I was raised differently. You sound like a moral relativist to me.


103 posted on 02/06/2005 7:30:17 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mattdono; presidio9

Yeah, swap out the ladies and have a bunch of guys having a sand pit wressling match, and it's nothing to worry about.


104 posted on 02/06/2005 7:30:40 AM PST by Darksheare ("Cast off your amazing human ruse and show them our mighty robot form!" - but I'm a ghost!)
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To: All

If true, this is just ........... sad.


105 posted on 02/06/2005 7:31:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Arpege92

And these women will be the ones crying "sexual harassment" - maybe women DON'T belong in the military.


106 posted on 02/06/2005 7:31:44 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: SandRat

Disney movies?!
You want to warp them into hideous freaks of nature bent on crushing everything in sight?
*chuckle*

Give them the classics, Old Yeller, and Arsenic and Old Lace.


107 posted on 02/06/2005 7:32:02 AM PST by Darksheare ("Cast off your amazing human ruse and show them our mighty robot form!" - but I'm a ghost!)
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To: Fury; mike1sg

I agree with everything you have said....btw...since when has alcohol been allowed in theater...my hubby was there 15mos and it was forbidden.


108 posted on 02/06/2005 7:32:17 AM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: ChadGore

$10 on the black girl.


109 posted on 02/06/2005 7:32:48 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: mlc9852
I have been a "youth" and I have children 18 and 20 and I do NOT consider this normal behavior. But maybe I was raised differently. You sound like a moral relativist to me.

It's definately out there now for 18-25 year olds everywhere in America, usually worse.

110 posted on 02/06/2005 7:33:19 AM PST by rb22982
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To: mlc9852

No, women have a place in the military. That place is not in a mud pit, half dressed, romping around with other woman, while drunk male soldiers cheer them on.


111 posted on 02/06/2005 7:33:28 AM PST by Arpege92 (Mr. Kerry, you are a jerk!" - Pat Sajak)
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To: VeniVidiVici

re: I don't see any innocent Iraqis with panties on their heads

Actually, the reason the young lady was wearing thong underwear is that she had provided her GI underpants to the people who were questioning prisoners not far from where the party took place.


112 posted on 02/06/2005 7:33:32 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: Darksheare

Fred McMurry in Follow Me Boys and Flubber would be good.


113 posted on 02/06/2005 7:33:52 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Edward Watson

This doesn't sound any worse than a typical weekend at the Kennedy compound.


Let the military handle whatever misconduct was involved. Any good the military is doing in Iraq is ALWAYS IGNORED but stories like these get 24/7 coverage.


114 posted on 02/06/2005 7:34:15 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Your tolerance for this kind of behavior is what led to the Tailhook episode, and the resulting destruction of many aviators' careers.

All it takes is one woman to cry foul, and it's no longer fun and games.

Do stupid stuff and it will eventually catch up with you.

115 posted on 02/06/2005 7:34:35 AM PST by independentmind
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To: leadpenny

"Lighten up, Diana. If you don't want others to reply to a post - make it a private one."

Sorry. Is that a rule? If so, I didn't know. Please forgive me.


116 posted on 02/06/2005 7:35:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: presidio9
"From what I understand they dared her to do it," said Allen's grandmother, Luci Tomlin, in Black Mountain, N.C. "It was a loose moment. She is a strong-headed young lady. Sometimes she can be a little irrational."

Translation: "My granddaughter is a slut."

117 posted on 02/06/2005 7:35:46 AM PST by pickemuphere
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To: two134711
These soldiers are the repreentatives of all that is right with America; they should act accordingly.

Why is it so hard for you to realize you're holding soldiers in a combat zone to your peace-lovin', back-home-in-the-States standards?

118 posted on 02/06/2005 7:36:55 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: SwatTeam

Exactly. As long as they were off duty, I don't see any real harm in it. It was not appropriate, but, as far as I'm concerned, its certainly not worthy of anything more than minor disciplinary action. The truth is, many of them have been in a very, very stressful and dangerous situation for a while now. If this lets them forget where they are for a while and lets them act their age, then on the balance, I think that's a good thing. Let them live a little and let them have a little fun. They've earned it. There's no sense in raising a major stink over this.


119 posted on 02/06/2005 7:37:21 AM PST by VOR78
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To: pickemuphere

LOL!


120 posted on 02/06/2005 7:37:31 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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