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Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication (After you smoke a joint, I do Too!)
FOX News ^ | Friday, January 28, 2005 | By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 02/01/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM

WASHINGTON — Pot. Cannabis. Hemp. Weed. Grass.

The herb takes many names. But in the nation’s capital, where the marijuana lobby (search) was once the recreational diversion of Playboy Magazine's Hugh Hefner, pro-pot special interest groups have crystallized the divergent issues behind the plant and gained a seemingly unified voice.

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"It’s a no-brainer. It makes no sense putting old and sick folks in jail for an herb that makes them feel better," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project (search), which was established in 1995 by Rob Kampia, a former mainstay at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the first pro-pot lobby in Washington, D.C.

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To: .cnI redruM

Proverbs 15:17
Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.


181 posted on 02/02/2005 8:24:41 AM PST by PaxMacian
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To: robertpaulsen
You say "government" the way others would say "dictatorship".

Only when it acts like one. The way you want it.

No, I don't oppose the people setting standards for society.

People always set standards for society. You want a small group with guns to set them. You confuse government with society. It's just one of the thousands of things you are confused about.

Feeling helpless today?

Actually I feel great. Just another day showing how authoritarian Taliban types like you are hyperventilating over your loss of power since your liberal friends were turned out in greater numbers in the last election.

And here I thought you did.

Again, you were wrong. That's a habit for you.

But, it appears that you're willing to set aside your principles just to get your precious drugs legalized.

My principles remain intact. And you are the drug user, not me. I have never used an illegal substance in my life. You on the other hand have been a heavy user.

No problem, says Protagoras. Just please make drugs legal AGAIN. And respect my human rights.

182 posted on 02/02/2005 8:25:23 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
You're saying that even your own state doesn't have the power to regulate drugs?

Oooh. You are an anarchist, aren't you?

183 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: houeto
"I can find nothing in the constitution enumerating this power to the feds."

Ah. What were you looking under, "drugs, regulation of"?

Well, the U.S. Constitution isn't that specific. Sorry.

184 posted on 02/02/2005 8:29:10 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You're saying that even your own state doesn't have the power to regulate drugs?

I never said they didn't have the power. You made that up. You lied, again.

I say they don't have the LEGITIMATE power to do so. There is no LEGITIMATE power to usurp rights.

Oooh. You are an anarchist, aren't you?

Not in the least. Government is legitimate and necessary. But not all things they do are.

185 posted on 02/02/2005 8:34:31 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras

The state in which you live does not have to protect your so-called "right" to smoke dope. Where did you ever come up with that one?


186 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Well, the U.S. Constitution isn't that specific. Sorry.

The tenth amendment is quite specific. Sorry

The ninth amendment is quite specific. Sorry

187 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:29 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: robertpaulsen
I don't lie.

A dubious statemet coming from someone who says their only interest in pot is making sure their kids never smoke it, and that they don't have any scruples about what they'll do to make that happen.

188 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:49 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: robertpaulsen
Where did you ever come up with that one?

The state where I live is supposed to defend all my rights. And I don't smoke dope, never have. You on the other hand, a heavy user, should know.

The state in which you live does not have to protect your so-called "right" to NOT ALLOW SOMEONE TO smoke dope. Where did you ever come up with that so-called right?

189 posted on 02/02/2005 8:42:03 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
"There is no LEGITIMATE power to usurp rights."

Who's talking about usurping rights? I'm saying that the states do not have to protect your rights beyond life, liberty, and property (plus those incorporated by the 14th amendment).

Drugs ain't one of them.

190 posted on 02/02/2005 8:44:53 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: mowowie

Like Louie Armstrong a long term pot smoker.


191 posted on 02/02/2005 8:45:29 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Yo Bobby, you must be the great-great-grandson of Harry J. Anslinger. You really carry that anti-marijuana torch high.

What drives your crusade? Did you have a close friend or relative that died from a marijuana overdose?
192 posted on 02/02/2005 8:46:06 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Protagoras
The ninth and tenth amendments are specific?

Now you're acting silly.

193 posted on 02/02/2005 8:46:13 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Do you think crack cocaine should be legalized to reduce the high profits placed in criminal hands, and to increase liberty?

Eventually, yes; but I also think prudence dictates that we start by relegalizing marijuana and see what we learn from that.

194 posted on 02/02/2005 8:46:15 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
The ninth and tenth amendments are specific?

Quite.

And anyone who can read knows precisely what they say, to say otherwise is acting silly.

195 posted on 02/02/2005 8:47:41 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: robertpaulsen
The ninth and tenth amendments are specific?

Now you're acting silly.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states" is well specified.

196 posted on 02/02/2005 8:51:25 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Who's talking about usurping rights?

I am. You want to usurp mine. I say no. You want to do so, come get me. I'll stop you. You know that. You are a coward, therefore, you enlist government thugs to come for you. It's simple.

I'm saying that the states do not have to protect your rights beyond life, liberty, and property (plus those incorporated by the 14th amendment).

Liberty, correct. Damn, for a druggie, you finally got one right.

Drugs ain't one of them.

Of course all substances and activities which do not usurp your rights are one of them.

On the other hand, you assert some bizarre made up "right" to regulate my non rights violating behavior. You cite the children, like your hero Hillary.

197 posted on 02/02/2005 8:52:26 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Beckwith
Did you have a close friend or relative that died from a marijuana overdose?

Nobody ever died from a marijuana overdose (unlike alcohol).

198 posted on 02/02/2005 8:53:05 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Protagoras
"The state where I live is supposed to defend all my rights."

WRONG!

The state where you live is required to protect those rights outlined in the state constitution (plus those forced on them by the 14th amendment). That's it.

Now, if you don't like those limited protected rights, you may move to another state.

199 posted on 02/02/2005 8:55:11 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Beckwith
Back with the questions, Beckwith?

Got something to add to the thread, or are you just here to disrupt?

200 posted on 02/02/2005 8:57:10 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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