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Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication (After you smoke a joint, I do Too!)
FOX News ^ | Friday, January 28, 2005 | By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 02/01/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM

WASHINGTON — Pot. Cannabis. Hemp. Weed. Grass.

The herb takes many names. But in the nation’s capital, where the marijuana lobby (search) was once the recreational diversion of Playboy Magazine's Hugh Hefner, pro-pot special interest groups have crystallized the divergent issues behind the plant and gained a seemingly unified voice.

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"It’s a no-brainer. It makes no sense putting old and sick folks in jail for an herb that makes them feel better," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project (search), which was established in 1995 by Rob Kampia, a former mainstay at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the first pro-pot lobby in Washington, D.C.

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To: robertpaulsen
A better question is why should society legalize marijuana? What have we to gain by the legalization of yet another drug?

The real question is; why is it any of your business what others do so long as they don't violate your rights?

Free people do not ask "WHY should things be legal?" They ask "Why would we want to make things illegal?"

You have it PRECISELY backwards.

121 posted on 02/01/2005 12:34:06 PM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: Sender
No flame. You're right. I worked with a Florida sheriff's deputy back in the '70s, and he said it was a lot less harmful than alcohol. And the stupid WOD takes up too much time and money that could be better spent elsewhere.

Carolyn

122 posted on 02/01/2005 12:36:54 PM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
If these guys had the brains or guts to argue for legalization on the merits, maybe somebody would listen to them.

There are plenty of people with both right here on FR that do argue legalization on the merits.
There are others here on FR that wouldn't listen to them if they had a bullhorn to their ears.

123 posted on 02/01/2005 12:37:15 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Sender
unless he is actually committing crimes related to his drug use, putting them in jail is not the solution.

Which is to take the wrong tack. They should be put in jail for committing crimes, not for committing crimes for some particular reason.

I don't care why a man stole my car, only that he did. I don't care why a man broke into my house, only that he did.

If he violated my rights, it's a problem no matter what his motive. If he did not violate my rights, he is free to go his way. That is the proper way to think about it in a free society.

124 posted on 02/01/2005 12:38:57 PM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: robertpaulsen

No real point, just bored, and didn't really like your attitude.

I do have a question though about abuse. Who determines if it's abused, or just used? And what exactly is abuse of plant matter? Burning it, enjoying it, feeling good? Don't people already abuse alcohol, and that has to be manufactured specifically in order to abuse it.

Gotta go.


125 posted on 02/01/2005 12:40:55 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: Protagoras

"The real point has nothing whatsoever to do with pot, or even drugs. It has to do with whether we should be a free country or not."

I agree with you there. I just get tired of making the same arguments over and over again. Feels like banging my head against the wall, except not as much fun.


126 posted on 02/01/2005 12:41:44 PM PST by monday
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To: bird4four4
"Please explain why Alcohol and Nicotine are not schedule I drugs"

I really have no idea. If you think they belong there, you are free to write the Attorney General and ask him to place them there.

"The US government supplies it to 7 people for medical purposes. Why is it a Schedule I drug?"

Those 7 are what remains of an old government marijuana study that has been discontinued. Technically, they're supposed to be submitting reports.

127 posted on 02/01/2005 12:41:53 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: mikeus_maximus
... if they could just remember whom they lobbied last ...

Yeah, sure, thats why the needlebutts and brownshirts go into full derision mode. Scared of the sophistication they revel their own ignorance.

128 posted on 02/01/2005 12:45:06 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Know your rights
"A reduction in the high profits placed in criminal hands, and an increase in liberty."

I asked, "Why legalize marijuana?" Your answer would apply to any drug, even crack cocaine. Especially crack cocaine.

Do you think crack cocaine should be legalized to reduce the high profits placed in criminal hands, and to increase liberty?

129 posted on 02/01/2005 12:46:11 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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LOL when I read these threads, I'm reminded of the uptight old ladies who thought prohibition was a good thing.



Outnumbered, but shrill, I guess it's no surprise to find some here even at Free Republic.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

... those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

-C. S. Lewis

130 posted on 02/01/2005 12:48:05 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: .cnI redruM

This is all great but meanwhile kids are tripping on bottles of Robotusin.


131 posted on 02/01/2005 12:48:12 PM PST by mowowie
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To: robertpaulsen

So you admint that MJ has some medical use and should not be subject to the stardards set forth, yet are not bothered by the obvious oversight by the government of the two substances that they prefer. You're a good, rule of law conservative, right?


132 posted on 02/01/2005 12:48:35 PM PST by bird4four4
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To: Know your rights; robertpaulsen

What have we to gain by the relegalization of an herb gifted by God?

Perhaps it is integrity!
Maybe, it is just common sense?
Probably, the greatest gain will be in the ability to feed and cloth the masses.
There is ethanol, composites, and decrreased deforestation, too.


133 posted on 02/01/2005 12:49:40 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: tallhappy
... And so many who freeload and parasite on FR are thier hallelujah chorus ...

We've got to balance out the needlebutt cackling, who are worse than freeloaders and parasites for they wallow in their fear and would gladly trade liberty for security. Fearful little people, teaching their children with deceit, teaching them to be little cowards like their parents. The nudie bars are filled with the daughters of needlebutts.

134 posted on 02/01/2005 12:51:47 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Protagoras
"The real question is; why is it any of your business what others do so long as they don't violate your rights?"

Right next to your 9th amendment "right" to do drugs is my 9th amendment "right" to raise my children in a drug free environment.

Oh, I don't have rights? Only the dopers have rights?

135 posted on 02/01/2005 12:52:16 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: stuartcr
Sorry. I answer people who don't have a problem with my attitude.
136 posted on 02/01/2005 12:57:00 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: .cnI redruM
Heroin would be legal by your definition. ...

So? Heroin is much more benign than meth. Also, heroin is not God's Gift. It is manmade, God's Gift refined. This gift in its morphine form is true compassion for dying people.

137 posted on 02/01/2005 12:58:04 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: robertpaulsen
Right next to your 9th amendment "right" to do drugs is my 9th amendment "right" to raise my children in a drug free environment.

No such right exists. Your right to your "environment" ends at your front door.

Otherwise, I would have a right to raise my children without you in my environment.

138 posted on 02/01/2005 12:58:45 PM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: Mcirrus

Don't let this dude bust your chops. He really enjoys division.


139 posted on 02/01/2005 12:59:18 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Just another Joe

I was talking about the pot lobby, specifically. They spend far too much time and effort trying to convince the public that pot is medicine. It's not.

The case for legalization can be made effectively without the medicinal marijuana lie.


140 posted on 02/01/2005 1:02:55 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (...fly Eagles fly...)
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