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Mr. President, "Disaster Relief" Is Not Yours to Give
Peroutka 2004 ^ | 12/30/2004 | Peroutka

Posted on 01/02/2005 8:50:12 AM PST by worldclass

The real issue here is whether such so-called Federally-funded disaster “relief” is Constitutional. And the answer is very clear: No, it is not. There isn’t the slightest Constitutional authority for Federal tax dollars to be spent for disaster “relief.” Thus, any such expenditure of Federal tax dollars for disaster “relief” --- foreign or domestic --- is illegal, unlawful.

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As conservatives, we really need to think through how "socialized" we have become.
1 posted on 01/02/2005 8:50:12 AM PST by worldclass
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To: worldclass

Absolutely true. However, quite a number of misguided folks will not welcome your wise message.


2 posted on 01/02/2005 8:51:13 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: neutrino

Just to let you know, I am paying attention to what you post. Quite close attention.


3 posted on 01/02/2005 8:52:40 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: neutrino

You are the same insane person who last night said that a woman who lost seven children didn't need our aid because she had no one left to support. That thread was thankfully deleted, probably because your comments reflected so badly on Free Republic.

Personally, I think you're nuts.


4 posted on 01/02/2005 8:53:33 AM PST by Peach
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bttt


5 posted on 01/02/2005 8:53:45 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: neutrino

I agree...you will be called stingy and unloving. lol
Where was the rest of the worlds disaster relief when 4 hurricanes hit our country? Its frickin ridiculous.


6 posted on 01/02/2005 8:53:56 AM PST by BriarBey
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To: worldclass
There is nothing necessarily 'unconstitutional' about elective use of Federal money unless the action is expressly forbidden by the USC.

Such an action is more accurately 'extra-constitutional.' Not expressly forbidden but not officially mandated, either. That doesn't mean that it's unconstitutional.

Making stuff like this a constitutional issue only makes our side look as bad as the other side, which loves making all sorts of issues into Constitutional issues when they can't win at the ballot box. Bad thing.

The Feds can choose to give disaster relief or not, and either course of action is perfectly constitutional. Arguing anything else is silly.
8 posted on 01/02/2005 8:55:19 AM PST by HitmanLV (HitmanNY has a brand new Blog!! Please Visit! - http://www.goldust.com/weblog -)
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To: BriarBey

We didn't need financial help in this country to deal with the hurricanes last summer. Our economy is healthy and strong and the areas hit did not wipe out 150,000 citizens and entire towns and villages.


9 posted on 01/02/2005 8:55:35 AM PST by Peach
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To: BriarBey
Where was the rest of the worlds disaster relief when 4 hurricanes hit our country?
Please post a link to anything indicating the we asked for or even expressed interest in aid from the rest of the world.
10 posted on 01/02/2005 8:56:15 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: worldclass
The President has usurped a massive amount of Americans' good-natured character/good will. $350 million dollars reflects very well on the U.S. government. All of that has been usurped from the taxpayers.

Had the President put it to a vote of the people he likely would have gotten a 'yes' to give aid. In that way it would have been the people's good will that would receive it's just deserved recognition for their compassion.

It is wrong, very wrong for the President/government to usurp what is rightfully each individual person's deeply personal ethical concerns on doing right by their own conscience.

It sickens me that the government can so easily usurp such personal and integral-to-the-individual essence of character. 

President Bush needs to address the people regarding this very important aspect.

-- Side note: consider how often politicians and bureaucrats spend your money to make themselves look good.

11 posted on 01/02/2005 8:56:19 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: worldclass

According to the Constitution the Congress (House of Representatives) must initiate and then the Senate must agree on any spending or allocation of funds. As I understand it the Congress gave the President authority to spend X dollars on disaster relief. The 350 million dollars just about wipes out the allocation. If more is spent then congress will have to initiate and then pass a bill authorizing the expenditure of additional funds.


12 posted on 01/02/2005 8:56:35 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: BriarBey

We didn't need anyone's help. We also didn't have entire cities wiped out and over 100,000 dead.


13 posted on 01/02/2005 8:56:54 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: worldclass



So......... who is making the popcorn...?


14 posted on 01/02/2005 8:57:40 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: WineGuy


I was under the impression that our foreign aid was for mostly political reasons. A country beholden to us is beholden to us. Although, I think in this case it's truly charity.


15 posted on 01/02/2005 8:58:32 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Support our troops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: BriarBey

Yeah the rest of the world should give money to people who have homeowner's insurance and already get government assistance.


16 posted on 01/02/2005 9:01:09 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Zon; Miss Marple
Just to get a proper perspective of your personal value system and level of reasonableness and normalcy, please elucidate on the wonders of Zon Power for a few hours.
17 posted on 01/02/2005 9:02:03 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: neutrino

At least you have people paying attention to what you post... ;-)

Hey, I've got an idea. I think I'll run over to the neighbor's house, grab some stuff and donate it.


18 posted on 01/02/2005 9:03:05 AM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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To: worldclass
(Excerpt) Read more at peroutka2004.com...

2004? Hey spoiler-boy, the election's over. I think you lost or something. It was in all the papers.

19 posted on 01/02/2005 9:03:06 AM PST by inkling
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To: Cultural Jihad

I myself would be interested in hearing about Zon Power.


20 posted on 01/02/2005 9:03:18 AM PST by Miss Marple
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