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Mr. President, "Disaster Relief" Is Not Yours to Give
Peroutka 2004 ^ | 12/30/2004 | Peroutka

Posted on 01/02/2005 8:50:12 AM PST by worldclass

The real issue here is whether such so-called Federally-funded disaster “relief” is Constitutional. And the answer is very clear: No, it is not. There isn’t the slightest Constitutional authority for Federal tax dollars to be spent for disaster “relief.” Thus, any such expenditure of Federal tax dollars for disaster “relief” --- foreign or domestic --- is illegal, unlawful.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 3rdpartykook; cantevenget1percent; charityscam; constitutionparty; fauxconservative; foreignaid; iamadumbass; koolaidkook; peroutka; scam; scammers; selfrighteoustwit; silliness; slushfund; tsunami; unappeasabletwit; unicef
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To: HitmanNY
Such an action is more accurately 'extra-constitutional.' Not expressly forbidden but not officially mandated, either. That doesn't mean that it's unconstitutional.

Spoken like a shyster who believes the Consitution is a living, breathing document.

The Constitution was not intended as a general guideline for Government, it is/was a specific blueprint for Government. If it was not written into the Constitution, then the Fed Gov. did/does not have the power to do it. The original amendments were further enumerations on what the Fed Gov could not do.

Perhaps a little Lysander Spooner will help you understand;

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/NoTreason/NoTreason.html

Sui

41 posted on 01/02/2005 9:11:09 AM PST by suijuris
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To: alnick

It's comments like this that feed liberals' caricatures of conservatives.
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Hey...they gotta have something FREE to eat. Its their entitlement.


42 posted on 01/02/2005 9:11:55 AM PST by BriarBey
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To: Zon

The President has emptied the Disaster Relief Fund, and we'll be giving more. He should address the country about this and soon.


43 posted on 01/02/2005 9:12:03 AM PST by hershey
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To: WineGuy

Would you give a relief package to an Indonesian man wearing a T shirt with Osama Bin Laden's picture on it? (that happened). Just a question, I don't have the answer. Keep in mind most Indonesians are Muslims, many of whom are radicals who hate the US and support the terrorists. One of the deadliest terrorist attacks was in Bali, Indonesia. The Aussies lost many citizens there.


44 posted on 01/02/2005 9:12:15 AM PST by Paulus Invictus ( No soy anti-inmigrante! Soy anti-inmigrante ilegal!)
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To: Zon

PIFFLE


45 posted on 01/02/2005 9:13:23 AM PST by MEG33 (...GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Miss Marple
I don't think I really want to know about it. But if you can figure it all out....well, more zon power to you!
46 posted on 01/02/2005 9:13:46 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: gorush

Every action by the Feds does not have to be mandated by the USA. The formation fo the Federal Banking system shortly after the founding of the USA, for example, was not mandated by the USC and would fall within 10th Amendment concerns you mentioned, yet clearly it's (necessarily) not an unconstitutional enterprise (and a pretty smart thing to do, of course).

To be fair, those arguments that it would be ubnconstitutional for numerous reasons were made at the time and they failed then and they will fail now.

You are partially right in your answer - you really DON'T know where to begin! ;-)


47 posted on 01/02/2005 9:14:03 AM PST by HitmanLV (HitmanNY has a brand new Blog!! Please Visit! - http://www.goldust.com/weblog -)
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To: HitmanNY

CAUTION! The following may seem to be heartless, BUT:

I think the disturbed response to the President allotting so many ($350,000,000) hard earned tax dollars to other countries without the approval of US citizens is understandable. We pay taxes to keep the US afloat, NOT THE WORLD. How does the President have that power and
just who is playing God here?

Just a thought.



48 posted on 01/02/2005 9:14:32 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: cyborg
I personally think my school taxes are a waste educating the little sh*t that stole my car.

ROFLMAO. I mean, REALLY ROFLMAO!

49 posted on 01/02/2005 9:14:38 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Peach
Personally, I think half of these nutjobs are reporters who signed up some time ago so their sign-up date wasn't terribly suspicious.

That's an interesting theory. I sometimes wonder how many of them are just nutbar leftists making outrageous posts in order to make conservatives look bad.

I have NEVER personally known anyone who fits the ridiculous stereotypes of conservatives the way that some posters here do, and I live in the most conservative parish in Louisiana (Thank God since I don't have the temperment to be surrounded by leftists, or right-wing extremists, for that matter).

50 posted on 01/02/2005 9:15:24 AM PST by alnick
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To: gaspar

I completely agree - my point is that those who argue against all sorts of elective actions by the feds - that is, stuff not mandated nor expressly forbidden by the USC - on Constitutional grounds are all wet.


51 posted on 01/02/2005 9:15:29 AM PST by HitmanLV (HitmanNY has a brand new Blog!! Please Visit! - http://www.goldust.com/weblog -)
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To: worldclass

Oh brother, just how many votes did this supposedly christian man get? Peroutka had no problem letting the state take care of his step daughters. He had no problem keeping their social security checks even while they were in state foster care.

The constitution party is a great big joke. They also make conservative christians look bad.


52 posted on 01/02/2005 9:15:33 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: Peach

I don't take issue with the humanitarian assistance at all, but I've heard Colin Powell (on FX) saying that some of the assistance will be going to rebuilding their tourist industry.

THAT is not money well spent. We should not be spending money to kick-start the Thai tourism industry--or anyone else's for that matter.


Hopefully, there will be an accounting on how and where this money is spent--to ensure that it helps the needy get clothing, food, medicines and the like.


53 posted on 01/02/2005 9:15:55 AM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: Paulus Invictus

I would, but he'd sure as hell know it's the United States feeding him NOT OBL and our Saudi 'friends'. Nothing drives the terrorists more insane than christian charity.


54 posted on 01/02/2005 9:16:15 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Paulus Invictus

About the osama t-shirt guy, considering the state of the poor over there (and not knowing, but assuming the guy is not upper class), would he have a variety of shirts available to him from which he selected the osama shirt to wear? Or, is he more likely to just be grateful to have a shirt at all, even one with osama's pic on it?


55 posted on 01/02/2005 9:16:33 AM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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To: alnick
It's comments like this that feed liberals' caricatures of conservatives.

But....but.....but.......we've been told repeatedly for the last two days by these very people that they are, in fact, the "real, true" conservatives, all knowing, of course, and we are WRONG to agree with President Bush that this country show respect for 141,000 deaths.

One guy even said that a woman who lost her seven children didn't need any money BECAUSE HER FAMILY WAS DEAD and she didn't have any expenses.

56 posted on 01/02/2005 9:16:45 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Paperdoll
Well, you are right about one thing: you do sound heartless.

If you don't want to help these people because they are suffering, how about helping them so that their governments remain stable, and we avoid Islamic terrorists or the Chinese from taking over the area?

57 posted on 01/02/2005 9:16:54 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: worldclass

Peroutka. LOL


58 posted on 01/02/2005 9:17:00 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not *always* cranky.)
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To: HitmanNY
"Every action by the Feds does not have to be mandated by the USA."

It is that attitude that has allowed socialism to get it's foothold here and, while I don't claim to be a good loser, your side has won...but I don't have to respect you for it.

59 posted on 01/02/2005 9:17:02 AM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: HitmanNY

If a power is not stated in the constitution as belinging within the scope of the federal govt, it is left to the states. Extra-constitutional and unconstitutional are words that share the same meaning.


60 posted on 01/02/2005 9:17:47 AM PST by jeremiah (Either take the gloves off of our troops, or let them come home NOW)
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