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Confederate States Of America (2005)
Yahoo Movies ^ | 12/31/04 | Me

Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob

What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?

While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.

Stars with bars:

Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.

Some things are better left dead in the past:

For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.

Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.

Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:

So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?

Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.

This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.

Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.

At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.

So what do you think of this movie?


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To: lentulusgracchus
It's getting harder to tell whether they're neoconservatives trying to drive Southern conservatives into an upstairs attic like Crazy Aunt Mary, where they can feed us table scraps and keep us under wraps so as not to embarrass them with their liberal neighbors, and then just wheel us to the polls on election day and bait us into voting a GOP straight ticket with a few down-ballot social initiatives, or whether they're neoliberals straining in the traces with their boy Slick Willie to split the GOP in two.

The intent is undoubtedly the former, while the result will, without question, be the latter.

4,801 posted on 04/11/2005 3:44:20 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: lentulusgracchus
It's getting harder to tell whether they're neoconservatives trying to drive Southern conservatives into an upstairs attic like Crazy Aunt Mary...

If one accepts that Conservative principles are smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for states rights then there are no Southern conservatives today. Just Democrats with religion.

4,802 posted on 04/11/2005 4:04:46 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: capitan_refugio; lentulusgracchus
[Gianni] Post a single lie from nolu chan. I have several from you.

[CR] Once the trash has been thrown out, it is best it be left out.

Couldn't name a single conservative thing that you did in 300 posts over the course of a week, now you can't come up with anything to support your smear.

I think LG has the right idea, twit filter activated.

4,803 posted on 04/11/2005 4:05:39 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: GOPcapitalist; mac_truck
I do, however, have little doubt that you look approvingly on the following...

Considering that it's the U.S. flag and not the confederate flag I would assume you would be out there, cheering them on.

4,804 posted on 04/11/2005 4:08:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: lentulusgracchus; mac_truck
A little incipient Catholic-bashing?

Come now, bashing the papists is a good old southron tradition. The Klan disapproved of Catholics almost as much as they disapproved of blacks, so I would think that taking after the mackeral-snappers would fit in with your respect for your southron heritage.

4,805 posted on 04/11/2005 4:10:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
If one accepts that Conservative principles are smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for states rights then there are no Southern conservatives today. Just Democrats with religion.

Where do the real conservatives hide out? The mountain states?

4,806 posted on 04/11/2005 4:28:53 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Where do the real conservatives hide out? The mountain states?

Not in Washington, DC. That's for sure.

4,807 posted on 04/11/2005 4:32:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I would think that taking after the mackeral-snappers ...

Nothing like wearing YOUR biases on your sleeve. I'll bet you have lots of Catholic friends </sarcasm>

4,808 posted on 04/11/2005 5:57:51 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Nothing like wearing YOUR biases on your sleeve. I'll bet you have lots of Catholic friends

I have a large number of Catholic friends...and an entire Roman Catholic family to boot.

4,809 posted on 04/11/2005 6:46:30 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: M. Espinola
You will not stop, even being aware you are out of control on this thread.

Freund.

4,810 posted on 04/11/2005 6:58:56 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I have a large number of Catholic friends...and an entire Roman Catholic family to boot.

I nearly married a fine Catholic girl, I would have never called (or even considered) calling her or her family "mackeral-snappers". They would have found that highly derogatory.

4,811 posted on 04/11/2005 7:02:13 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I nearly married a fine Catholic girl, I would have never called (or even considered) calling her or her family "mackeral-snappers". They would have found that highly derogatory.

Coming from a heathen it would have been. But I grew up in the 'Fish on Friday' days, and referring to ourselves as 'mackeral snappers' was something we did to annoy the Nuns.

4,812 posted on 04/11/2005 7:04:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; Gianni
If one accepts that Conservative principles are smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for states rights then there are no Southern conservatives today.

President Ronald W. Reagan was a democrat before changing parties. Be that as it may, I have yet to see one of the Wlat Brigade espousing 'smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for states rights'. I have seen such comments by those on our side, and made such myself. I'm also religious, and place obedience to God first and foremost.

4,813 posted on 04/11/2005 7:10:25 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
...referring to ourselves as 'mackeral snappers' was something we did to annoy the Nuns.

LOL. A friend from Spain told me about his childhood in Catholic schools, I understand.

4,814 posted on 04/11/2005 7:13:16 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Be that as it may, I have yet to see one of the Wlat Brigade espousing 'smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for states rights'.

Funny. I have yet to see any of the southerners running the Republican party today espousing "smaller, less intrusive government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for state's rights" either. So I think that when it comes to your politicians the term 'southern conservative' is an oxymoron.

4,815 posted on 04/11/2005 7:35:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: GOPcapitalist
YEP.

free dixie,sw

4,816 posted on 04/11/2005 8:21:21 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; Non-Sequitur; Gianni

George Wallace used to call himself a "states' rights conservative" too. Next time you are in southern California, come visit the Reagan Library and find out what modern conservatism is all about.


4,817 posted on 04/11/2005 8:23:41 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: M. Espinola
NOPE.

i'm just TRUTHFUL about BOTH lincoln (the crooked railroad lawyer) & wee willie klintoon (the LYING politician with a nose for cocaine like a vacumn cleaner).

EITHER would do ANYTHING to get more $$$$$$$$$ and POWER. ANYTHING.

free dixie,sw

4,818 posted on 04/11/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola
it's BALES, m.eSPINola.

when you can't even SPELL simple words, you aren't likely to be anything but a target for laughter.

free dixie,sw

4,819 posted on 04/11/2005 8:29:04 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
me too.

free dixie,sw

4,820 posted on 04/11/2005 8:32:03 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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