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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
free dixie,sw
it's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
free dixie,sw
like lincoln, for example, the DIShonest railroad shyster lawyer & "moral twin" of wee willie klintoon. EITHER would have promoted CANNIBALISM as a "wholesome life choice", if that would have gotten them more POWER.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
"don't you WISH that were TRUE!" (I always wanted to post that) The Founders and the Framers of the Constitution were well aware of contract law, compacts, treaties, and escape clauses. In the ratification debates, the anti-federalists made some of the same points - and they lost. Ratification of the Constitution strengthened the Union of the states and more firmly bound them as one.
Likewise, I'm sure.
BUT, one again, NOBODY at the time of the Constitution's writing could have predicted what activist judges would DO to their peerless document. they believed that:
the powers NOT ceded to the central government WERE RESERVED TO the states and the people.
free dixie,sw
SADLY, the federal judge in B'more seems to think silencing citizens/my FREEDOM OF SPEECH beforehand is Constitutional & a worthy thing to do.
free dixie,sw
Take it up with Scalia, who draws the same conclusions about permissible restrictions on speech on goverment property that the judge did. Oh, and he supports the right to burn the flag, too.
Your statement the Northern states fought the southern secessionist's over their rebellion against the United States government is correct, if you are addressing the treasonous root cause of South Carolina hotheads shelling a U.S. fort, while contingent on those fighting for the Union, many others also fought to end slavery, an evil the Confederate leadership demanded be upheld and expanded westward.
These exists backward pockets of die-hard, treasonous segregationists still screaming for their defeated 'heritage'...not 'hate'. If you buy that one there is a river, with a large bridge in Brooklyn, which is still for sale.
There were abolitionists in the Union Army. There were also "traitors" in that army in the personna of New England conscripts who had once advocated for secession. I don't doubt there were slaveowners in the Union Army. I'm sure you or NS can find one but I don't recall a single item showing that a single (white) Union soldier fought for abolition as his overriding cause. This nonsense that the Union was somehow morally superior in its actions is frustrating to us whose ancestors are the victims of PC historical revisionism.
And was Washington incorrect when he wanted to be known as an American and not a Virginian?
You mean Smart freepers like yourself?
LOL!
In regard to your false claim: "I don't recall a single item showing that a single (white) Union soldier fought for abolition as his overriding cause."
free dixie,sw
The irony. The irony.
The Voice of Reason(?) has spoken!
You show me nice pictures of 'what's his face' the abolitionist from Boston who commanded the first black Union regiment as depicted in "Glory". So what. You haven't made your case. He wasn't fighting for the abolition of slavery alone. He was fighting for the Union and that was his main drive. He was 26 years old when he gained command of that regiment. What a load.
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