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I'm a liberal and I'm here to learn

Posted on 12/10/2004 9:37:54 AM PST by rogerv

Hi, gang,

I was a regular contributor to the Kerry Online Forum and am now a regular contributor to the Common Ground Common Sense forum. I am a liberal, but I'll be the first to admit, I don't have all the answers. In fact, many of hte questions that matter to me probably matter to you too. I'm concerned with questions about how to tame power, whether governmental or corporate. I'm concern with the rule of law and how we can get the powerful to take it seriously. I'm concerned with the erosion of civil liberties. And yes, I am concerned about some things you may associate with liberalism--social safety nets and taking care of those who fall through the institutional cracks.

I'm here because I think agreement is overrated and that critics can be your best friends: they keep you from getting sloppy or careless. At any rate, I think there are things I can learn from you. I don't expect you are all agreed on anything--I expect there is a lot of diversity of opinion here. If you are interested in what I have said over at Common Ground Common Sense, I'm using the same handle both places, and you should feel free to come over and look around.

Anyway, I'm new here. Anybody care to give me a tour?


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To: rogerv

welcome.
you will get some flames and some sincere posts. if you are sincere you will find this friendly... if you are a "lurker" then you will be "zotted" and banned. sorry if this happens to you... i got banned at democratic underground after three posts which were simple questions like yours. i agree with many of the replies i've read to your statements, iow, please define and give examples of the erosion of civil liberties etc...
cheers


281 posted on 12/10/2004 10:38:30 AM PST by ejdouglas (Excess in Moderaton (www.moveOut.biz))
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To: rogerv

Agreed . . . so, that being said, what is your number one peeve with Republicans?


282 posted on 12/10/2004 10:39:07 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: rogerv

Explain what you are talking about when you say "erosion of civil liberties." And explain who you are talking about when you say "those who fall through the cracks of the social safety net."


283 posted on 12/10/2004 10:39:09 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: tiamat
I really do have a good singing voice I was feigning modesty.
284 posted on 12/10/2004 10:39:12 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Proud member of Generation Jones. Born Jan 15, 1954. I was not a hippy or a liberal.)
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To: rogerv
I don't understand. Why? No person with an ounce of integrity would vote for a war criminal.

Okay . . . Would you vote for someone who had committed crimes against humanity on a massive scale like Pol Pot, say, or do you absolutely, positively draw the line at "petty" war criminals. Or is it simply a matter of political expediency for you and there are no lines?

285 posted on 12/10/2004 10:39:39 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: rogerv
Believe it!. You will get punch once in a while.
286 posted on 12/10/2004 10:39:41 AM PST by crushelits
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To: rogerv
Thanks. I'm glad to be here. I think it is easy to stereotype people--I certainly have been as guilty of that as anybody. But, at the end of the day, we have to work together. I figured talking to each other might be a good start.

Most excellent! Welcome to FR. Beware, though, lest ye be converted! :^)

287 posted on 12/10/2004 10:40:12 AM PST by OSHA (Actual DUer-I am so proud and excited! Let the recount and Inauguration of President Kerry begin!)
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To: Barnstormer
No body will argue for moment that we should provide our children the best possible education - most of the debate around here begins when schools are used as political indoctrination camps versus imparting the knowledge that makes a productive future citizen?

Are there still any government-run schools that actually manage to impart knowledge needed to become a productive future citizen? Wow!

288 posted on 12/10/2004 10:40:37 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

That is so cruel CG - I consider RogerV's dissertation an opportunity to show off as well as grade his grammar.

i.e. if he's cutting and pasting our remarks for DU we should evidence our superior knowledge and spellin' akumin


289 posted on 12/10/2004 10:40:49 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: Jeff Head

Ah.
okers.


290 posted on 12/10/2004 10:41:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: tiamat

Peter, Paul,& Mounds??


291 posted on 12/10/2004 10:41:40 AM PST by international american (Generation Jones: "I need, I need someone to set a pick for me at the free-throw line of life)
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To: keats5
Merry Christmas, rogerv!

OUCH, hate speech, LOL.

292 posted on 12/10/2004 10:41:53 AM PST by Mister Baredog (PLEASE be sure you have a flag up on your FReeper homepage.!!!)
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To: Tax-chick
Early George Strait, or recent George Strait?

Absolutely!

293 posted on 12/10/2004 10:41:54 AM PST by houeto
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Then you definately don't want to sing with me! LOL!


294 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:06 AM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: rogerv

You are doing fine. No one has zotted you or paved you yet. Are you on a dial up connection or just very busy? We'll tell you most anything if asked. Your initial post is a little broad. Ask specific questions to get answers.

Have fun and be nice.


295 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:09 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Proud member of Generation Jones. Born Jan 15, 1954. I was not a hippy or a liberal.)
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To: ejdouglas
you are a "lurker" then you will be

Lurkers are not necessarily evil. Someone who merely reads posts without replying or maybe even does not register so replies are impossible is a lurker. Most of the readers are lurkers.

296 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:21 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: 2banana

I can live with that.


297 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:26 AM PST by rogerv
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To: sodpoodle

"akumin "

Is that a spice?


298 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:39 AM PST by international american (Generation Jones: "I need, I need someone to set a pick for me at the free-throw line of life)
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To: rogerv
I'm here because I think agreement is overrated and that critics can be your best friends: they keep you from getting sloppy or careless. At any rate, I think there are things I can learn from you.

Welcome to Freerepublic.

Are you here to actually discuss anything of value, or are you just trying to collect a few "sound bites" for your buddies back at DU?

299 posted on 12/10/2004 10:42:42 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave

Ping


300 posted on 12/10/2004 10:43:02 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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