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Man held in deaths has Toledo connection (update - see reply #40)
Toledo Blade ^
| November 24, 2004
| IGNAZIO MESSINA
Posted on 11/26/2004 3:02:40 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
Edited on 11/26/2004 5:41:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator.
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Comment #561 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
At that particular moment in time, they weren't a hunting party, they were answering a call for assistance from a friend, who probably told them he had a stranger in his tree stand.
Personally, had I been there, I would have brought a weapon. Not because I was expecting trouble, but because I hate to leave my rifle unattended.
I can't get this wmv to load on my site. I ain't adept enough at this stuff yet.
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posted on
11/27/2004 2:42:23 PM PST
by
concretebob
(A Nation ignorant of its past, is a Nation ripe for deception and manipulation)
To: Credo Deus
challenging them with jail time seems little more brutal, Vang had an open (unpaid) warrant for trespassing in a different county several years ago. He knew that the penalty for trespassing was a misdemeanor and he could ignore the fine since he already had gotten away with it. It did not stop him from applying for and receiving an out of state hunting license.
Regards,
GtG
563
posted on
11/27/2004 2:43:40 PM PST
by
Gandalf_The_Gray
(I live in my own little world, but I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
To: Credo Deus
Unarmed gang? My word, do I sense some more hostility toward the victims?
But that has been your position from the beginning. You have deliberately chosen words with loaded meanings.
How about friends? And they did not "forget" to bring their guns as you snidely imply. They had no reason to anticipate needing them and unless you anticipate needing them most people do not routinely carry. Which of course blows holes in your wild imaginings that somehow their showing up caused Vang to shoot.
564
posted on
11/27/2004 2:45:37 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
To: Credo Deus
Okay- you don't know why it provoked Vang. Why was it wrong then? Do you agree with my previous statement- that the hunter took the next logical step in calling the nearest help?
To: Credo Deus
maybe Greta will leach the case :) better than lacy Peterson case! YUCK!..double YUCK..if she milks this one the way she milked Peterson, she needs to buy a dairy farm
566
posted on
11/27/2004 2:46:47 PM PST
by
concretebob
(A Nation ignorant of its past, is a Nation ripe for deception and manipulation)
Comment #567 Removed by Moderator
Comment #568 Removed by Moderator
To: Harmless Teddy Bear; All
I've come to the conclusion that had we expended this much energy and time on the ACLU, they would cease to exist.
THAT would be GOOD THING
569
posted on
11/27/2004 2:53:05 PM PST
by
concretebob
(A Nation ignorant of its past, is a Nation ripe for deception and manipulation)
To: Credo Deus
But the survivor's statement indicated that the hunter was going to wait for Vang to leave. That indicates that Vang WAS leaving. Why should the hunter then leave? If Vang was leaving, wouldn't the hunter logically believe that the situation was defusing?
To: Credo Deus
Oh now you are saying that they were a temporary police force?
Well, one was an actual police officer but we will leave that to the side since it blows your theory of "Should have let the police handle it and no one would have gotten hurt" right out of the water.
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posted on
11/27/2004 2:57:57 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
To: concretebob
How do you know that we AREN'T? At this present moment?
Here. On this thread.
572
posted on
11/27/2004 2:58:55 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
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To: TERMINATTOR
They're just trying to build up an excuse for him because he's an minority. This endless analysis of a murderer is so typical.
Comment #574 Removed by Moderator
To: Brad's Gramma
575
posted on
11/27/2004 3:00:40 PM PST
by
concretebob
(A Nation ignorant of its past, is a Nation ripe for deception and manipulation)
To: Credo Deus
I thought it was the landowner who confronted him.
Comment #577 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
I have a bad feeling that even if the hunting party chose to just leave after a brief exchange that the outcome would have been the same. Just plain nuts.
578
posted on
11/27/2004 3:04:43 PM PST
by
two23
Comment #579 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
I dont want to call them a hunting party as they all seem to have forgotten to bring their guns... uhhhh.... Many hunters put away their guns when they aren't using them --- when the deer are moving it's likely dawn or dusk --- but probably the armed Vang wasn't even there to hunt deer which is why he had his gun at that time.
580
posted on
11/27/2004 3:09:19 PM PST
by
FITZ
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