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Was Abe Lincoln Gay? (The blockbuster book that will change America’s history)
LA Weekly ^ | OCT. 29 - NOV. 4, 2004 | Doug Ireland

Posted on 10/28/2004 6:07:00 AM PDT by Pokey78

If the loving heart of the Great Emancipator found its natural amorous passions overwhelmingly directed toward those of his own sex, it would certainly be a stunning rebuke to the Republican Party’s scapegoating of same-sex love for electoral purposes. And a forthcoming book by the late Dr. C.A. Tripp — The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, to be published in the new year by Free Press — makes a powerful case that Lincoln was a lover of men.

Tripp, who worked closely in the 1940s and 1950s with the groundbreaking sexologist Alfred Kinsey, was a clinical psychologist, university professor and author of the 1975 best-seller The Homosexual Matrix, which helped transcend outdated Freudian clichés and establish that a same-sex affectional and sexual orientation is a normal and natural occurrence.

In his book on Lincoln, Tripp draws on his years with Kinsey, who, he wrote, "confronted the problem of classifying mixed sex patterns by devising his 0-to-6 scale, which allows the ranking of any homosexual component in a person’s life from none to entirely homosexual. By this measure Lincoln qualifies as a classical 5 — predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual."

Tripp also found, based on multiple historical accounts, that Lincoln attained puberty unusually early, by the age of 9 or 10 — early sexualization being a prime Kinsey indicator for same-sex proclivities. Even Lincoln’s stepmother admitted in a post-assassination interview that young Abe "never took much interest in the girls." And Tripp buttresses his findings that Lincoln was a same-sex lover with important new historical contributions.

(Excerpt) Read more at laweekly.com ...


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To: foreverfree

A State has an absolute right to secede at any time, with or without cause, and the other States should have nothing to say about it. (Nothing stops them from counseling otherwise, but they should do nothing militarily or embargo or whatever to prevent it.)

Don't know what state you live in, but wouldn't you like to secede if Kerry wins? (I'm not happy with either Social Democrat Party Candidate A or Social Democrat Party Candidate B.)

By the way, do you know what you would call the Confederacy had they been allowed to secede instead of invaded? A Free Republic ;-)


321 posted on 10/29/2004 7:09:34 AM PDT by Red Phillips ([><] Vote Peroutka. A real conservative. [><])
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To: Red Phillips
A State has an absolute right to secede at any time, with or without cause, and the other States should have nothing to say about it.

Says who?

322 posted on 10/29/2004 7:46:30 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: little jeremiah

ok, let me rephrase that.. certain repubs are as delusional as dems... particularly lincoln loving repubs and law/order at all costs repubs...

SAHM ...stay at home mom


323 posted on 10/29/2004 9:08:29 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Awestruck
ok, let me rephrase that.. certain repubs are as delusional as dems... particularly lincoln loving repubs and law/order at all costs repubs...

And what brought you over to the Lincoln loathers pray tell?

324 posted on 10/29/2004 9:13:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
No. But speaking of 'out to pasture' let us know how bushpilot is getting along.

Quoth the Non-Sequitur: "Squack! Tu quoque! Tu quoque!"

325 posted on 10/29/2004 9:29:57 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Quoth the Non-Sequitur: "Squack! Tu quoque! Tu quoque!"

No, quoth the Non-Sequitur: "Tu Crammit! Tu Crammit!"

326 posted on 10/29/2004 9:31:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; nolu chan; 4ConservativeJustices

For Wlat's purposes, without a doubt.


327 posted on 10/29/2004 9:32:29 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Pokey78

Post-modernist revisionism....What a load of CRAP!!!

In 50 years they will be calling Doubia a closet fruitcake for how he changed world history.

Palllleeeeeaaasssseeeeee!!!!!!!!!1


328 posted on 10/29/2004 9:34:12 AM PDT by bubman
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To: capitan_refugio
As Lincoln was perfectly within his constitutional responsibilities to suspend the privilege of the writ habeas in the absense of Congress, and was eventually given that authority by leglisation for the duration of the conflict, it was also reasonable to detain wayward judges.

Your claim is illogical as it presumes the very matter of dispute before the court to have been true. It also presumes the foresight of a congressional act that did not happen for another two years and assumes that what Judge Merrick did, which was legally authorized under the unchanged and standing laws of congress, was somehow "wayward" on an unspecified and arbitrary decision of the executive. In short, capitan, you are full of it.

329 posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:24 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: capitan_refugio
Regarding Judge W. M. Merrick, he was a southerner (Maryland) appointed by a President, in close consultation with a southern-dominated Cabinet.

Your point? Merrick was a Georgetown law professor - the natural choice for appointment to the DC Circuit Court. The fact that he was from the DC area does not make him a confederate agent as you alleged any more than the fact that John Fremont was a South Carolinian makes him a secessionist.

Accusations of disloyalty on his part are recorded in the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion.

Display them. Time to put up or shut up.

330 posted on 10/29/2004 9:38:06 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: frog_jerk_2004
What was the reason for the Emancipation Proclamation if he did not believe in God?

Well, Lincoln told Orrestes Brownson at the time that his purpose was to gain a political advantage at home and in europe for his side in the war.

331 posted on 10/29/2004 9:40:01 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: frog_jerk_2004

The section you quote, BTW, was added at the advice of the cabinet, which did include some Christians. Lincoln was not planning to put it in the original.


332 posted on 10/29/2004 9:40:51 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Red Phillips
Just out of curiosity, is a state the sole indissoluble unit of government? Can a county unilaterally secede from a state? It would seem that your philosophy wouldn't stop at the state level, if that state government was seen destructive to some perceived sort of liberty. Can a township secede from a county? Can a county secede from a state, and rejoin the union (presuming it met the population requirements)? Can an individual secede? That would seem to be the ultimate extension of your theory.

Also, can the federal government expel a state from the union?

333 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:35 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: GOPcapitalist
For Wlat's purposes, without a doubt.

I can't speak for Walt. How about you? Does it qualify for you?

334 posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Just take a good look at his wife! If he wasn't gay, he most certainly was celebate.

Well, Mary was kinda cute when she was young (old portraits), of course she lost her looks when she hit her mid-30's like people used to do.....

Lincoln had a girlfriend who died when he was young. He was very much hung on her and her death devastated him. Let the gay theorists explain that.

335 posted on 10/29/2004 9:45:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: cyclotic
The first law of homosexuality:

'Homosexuals' don't reproduce, they recruit.

The third law:

Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse

336 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:09 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Pokey78

"Nice boy, this Doug Ireland kid, but he's about as sharp as a bowling ball"- Foghorn Leghorn


337 posted on 10/29/2004 9:49:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (N)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
LA Weekly articles by Doug Ireland should be given the same serious consideration as Trans-gender Aliens of Color in Weekly World News.

Know anything about Ireland? The name sounds familiar, but then I'm probably thinking of Innes Ireland and Jill Ireland.

Claiming famous people are gay has been a cottage industry for gay polemicists -- but they're always careful not to out the closeted gays who are helping them in places like Washington or in the offices of Exodus, NARTH, Focus on the Family, and so on.

They like to get next to some prominent conservative (Bob Dornan, Jerry Falwell) and then come out at a strategic moment.

They like it even better when the conservative has a gay in the family -- then they'll out him/her, even if the person doesn't come out voluntarily, to force the target to choose between defending his family member or defending his stand on public morals. He either has to turn on a member of his own family (vile) or turn hypocrite (also vile), both demoralizing to conservatives. It's a political variant of the "fork" move in chess. Well-known examples: Barry Goldwater, Newt Gingrich, Dick and Lynne Cheney.

The homosexual polemicists' entire object here is intestinely and cordially inimical to conservatives: it is to cut our hearts out and show them to us on a stick.

338 posted on 10/29/2004 9:55:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: John O

You sure got that right. Two for two.


339 posted on 10/29/2004 9:56:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Lincoln had a girlfriend who died when he was young. He was very much hung on her and her death devastated him. Let the gay theorists explain that.

I realize that this is an odd bit of role reversal, but in the interests of accuracy and integrity, I have to say that the whole Ann Rutledge story has been discredited.

340 posted on 10/29/2004 9:57:16 AM PDT by Heyworth
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