Posted on 10/28/2004 6:07:00 AM PDT by Pokey78
If the loving heart of the Great Emancipator found its natural amorous passions overwhelmingly directed toward those of his own sex, it would certainly be a stunning rebuke to the Republican Party’s scapegoating of same-sex love for electoral purposes. And a forthcoming book by the late Dr. C.A. Tripp — The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, to be published in the new year by Free Press — makes a powerful case that Lincoln was a lover of men.
Tripp, who worked closely in the 1940s and 1950s with the groundbreaking sexologist Alfred Kinsey, was a clinical psychologist, university professor and author of the 1975 best-seller The Homosexual Matrix, which helped transcend outdated Freudian clichés and establish that a same-sex affectional and sexual orientation is a normal and natural occurrence.
In his book on Lincoln, Tripp draws on his years with Kinsey, who, he wrote, "confronted the problem of classifying mixed sex patterns by devising his 0-to-6 scale, which allows the ranking of any homosexual component in a person’s life from none to entirely homosexual. By this measure Lincoln qualifies as a classical 5 — predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual."
Tripp also found, based on multiple historical accounts, that Lincoln attained puberty unusually early, by the age of 9 or 10 — early sexualization being a prime Kinsey indicator for same-sex proclivities. Even Lincoln’s stepmother admitted in a post-assassination interview that young Abe "never took much interest in the girls." And Tripp buttresses his findings that Lincoln was a same-sex lover with important new historical contributions.
(Excerpt) Read more at laweekly.com ...
Straight, bachelor guys did that. It was not only considered normal at the time, but was a practical necessity, as I pointed out.
Yes, you would, wouldn't you?
Why do some torture their inner-mirrors so?
If it's guilt by association then you must answer this.
If your dog sleeps in the bed with you are we to presume you had sex with it?
Like you said before...maybe.
Why is a law professor an athority on homosexuality?
You have to read the article to find that out.
"For this case, any trained scholar who (like the present writer) is gay has a substantial advantage, the very same intuitive feel that mainstream analysts have for heterosexual politics"
Lincoln was homosexual because Professor Thompson knows, inuitively, that he was. Now don't you feel foolish for asking? </sarcasm>
Since Thompson also outs Alexander the Great and Napoleon in the same article I imagine that Lincoln was actually pretty small potatoes.
Not to mention that intuitive ability to identify fellow homosexuals that he mentioned in the article, right?
According to the left, everyone of note was gay.
That's why he liked to wrestle, right?
I think this shows the mental illness of people who write articles like that and really think that way.
We can pretty much discount his claims.
At least two. Didn't you even bother to read the article? Paul Nitze was Reagan's chief arms negotiator and Thompson mentions his sexual orientation in the article. Plus his own self admitted homosexuality. You really need to start reading the stuff you reference.
I did, but I quit when I read one of his criterion for diagnosis was rumor
"where there's smoke there's fire.' Usually a lot of fire. In fact, in our experience, in our culture where homosexuality is at least marginally tolerated, but never really taken for granted, most rumors are true."
For this case, any trained scholar who (like the present writer) is gay
I did miss that little smoking gun. I guess if we found a law professor who practiced bestiality he could write an article about why bush pilot is into dogs, it would have as much credability.
The 19th Century's version of Maria Teresa Somoes Fieirra Heinz Kerry?
bump!
No, my discussion is with you who promotes his shoddy scholarship to further your own agenda, and the only smoke is from your 'Lincoln was a homosexual' theory going up in flames. People who have actually spent time documenting Lincoln's life, like David Herbert Donald, dismiss the homosexuality claims as nonsense because there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Witness the post I made earlier from his book where Donald documented his findings. Of course, not having even read your own article I could hardly expect you to read my long post, now could I?
From your source:
"In the case of Lincoln we also have to establish the facts, which would appear to be somewhat less conjectural. For this case, any trained scholar who (like the present writer) is gay has a substantial advantage, the very same intuitive feel that mainstream analysts have for heterosexual politics."
Kinsey has since been debunked to be a KOOK just like that childrens Doctor in which every mother hung on his lips.
USE YOUR OWN MIND(s) for a change, YOUR own judgement! USE the brain GOD gave each and everyone of YOU! And stop waiting around for the next hip n trendy guru(false prophet) to lead you astray. Nobody is going to save you but yourselves. Dissappointed? Too Bad! Get a life.... the one GOD gave you.
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