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Was Abe Lincoln Gay? (The blockbuster book that will change America’s history)
LA Weekly ^ | OCT. 29 - NOV. 4, 2004 | Doug Ireland

Posted on 10/28/2004 6:07:00 AM PDT by Pokey78

If the loving heart of the Great Emancipator found its natural amorous passions overwhelmingly directed toward those of his own sex, it would certainly be a stunning rebuke to the Republican Party’s scapegoating of same-sex love for electoral purposes. And a forthcoming book by the late Dr. C.A. Tripp — The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, to be published in the new year by Free Press — makes a powerful case that Lincoln was a lover of men.

Tripp, who worked closely in the 1940s and 1950s with the groundbreaking sexologist Alfred Kinsey, was a clinical psychologist, university professor and author of the 1975 best-seller The Homosexual Matrix, which helped transcend outdated Freudian clichés and establish that a same-sex affectional and sexual orientation is a normal and natural occurrence.

In his book on Lincoln, Tripp draws on his years with Kinsey, who, he wrote, "confronted the problem of classifying mixed sex patterns by devising his 0-to-6 scale, which allows the ranking of any homosexual component in a person’s life from none to entirely homosexual. By this measure Lincoln qualifies as a classical 5 — predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual."

Tripp also found, based on multiple historical accounts, that Lincoln attained puberty unusually early, by the age of 9 or 10 — early sexualization being a prime Kinsey indicator for same-sex proclivities. Even Lincoln’s stepmother admitted in a post-assassination interview that young Abe "never took much interest in the girls." And Tripp buttresses his findings that Lincoln was a same-sex lover with important new historical contributions.

(Excerpt) Read more at laweekly.com ...


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To: steve-b
In some cases (Alexander the Great, Richard I) the evidence is fairly convincing ....

While convincing by today's standards, it is probably impossible to nail down exactly where Alexander was on any contemporary standard.

Greek and Macedonian (and most Mediterranean) men of the day, of all proclivities, often had sexual relations with boys and men but may not be considered "gay" today. Most people were, more or less, pansexual and would have sex with anyone who was breathing, regardless of age or gender.

141 posted on 10/28/2004 7:19:54 AM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect John Kerry as it's president has forfeited it's right to exist.)
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To: Pokey78

bump


142 posted on 10/28/2004 7:20:17 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: bushpilot
It was common before the 20th century for heterosexual men to sleep in the same bed. People were poorer then; beds cost a lot of money and were hard to transport; and, most important, bedrooms were COLD in the winter and one could risk freezing to death were it not for a bed companion.

Even putting guests who were total strangers in the same bed for the night was common. In colonial times, the practice was called "bundling." IIRC, even guests of the wealthy George Washington at Mt. Vernon were "bundled" in the winter.

143 posted on 10/28/2004 7:20:42 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Pokey78
Tripp, who worked closely in the 1940s and 1950s with the groundbreaking sexologist Alfred Kinsey...

There's your first clue that this book has no validity. Alfred Kinsey was a phony.

144 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:11 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Pokey78

Just in case anyone wondered just how low the gay/lesbian movement would go to promote their cause...

Pure, undiluted bovine excrement!

It's amazing to me how a "doctor" can make such a detailed and accurate diagnosis of a man's sexual orientation when he's been DEAD for 139 years! One could ask this "doctor" if they ever see patients in their office, in the flesh? If so, why? You can obviously do your work with no patient present, so why not do that for all of them? It would save your patients a lot of time and effort if you could just diagnose and treat them while they go about their lives.

What a crock! ...and a sickening one at that.


145 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:23 AM PDT by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: scripter; little jeremiah

Certain history teachers in Massachusetts are going to love this.


146 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:34 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Pokey78
How long before we learn Ray Charles was homo?

ff

147 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:54 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Yes. On children as young as 3 months old I think. He advocated mothers masturbate their crying infants to lull them to sleep. It's in one of his books. I, unfortunately, had to read it cover to cover when I found out that the Seattle School District's sex ed curricula was based in large part on Kinsey's "research".


148 posted on 10/28/2004 7:22:44 AM PDT by ethical
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To: Pokey78
Liberals (and I must include any idiot who actually believes that they can figure out a person's sexual life 150 years AFTER the fact)....will do anything to destroy that which is good.

Especially those we conservatives hold in high regard.

redrock

150 posted on 10/28/2004 7:25:04 AM PDT by redrock (John Kerry....a reincarnation of Benedict Arnold????)
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To: RebelBanker

" IIRC, Dr. DiLorenzo raised the question in The Real Lincoln, but dismissed it as modern people misinterpreting customs and habits from another era."

That may be correct. But having been one of the few on this thread who actually READ the referenced article for my own curiosity, I must say that it is very odd that Lincoln would want to have a male companion to sleep in his bed with him when his wife was away.


151 posted on 10/28/2004 7:25:18 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Pokey78

Yea! And you know that "rail-spliter" stuff? Never happened. Log cabin? Nope. Born in a big house. Mother was an early feminist. This was all covered up. (/sarcasm)


152 posted on 10/28/2004 7:25:34 AM PDT by mc5cents (Always trust your fellow man, and always cut the cards)
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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; MeekOneGOP

The vile gay maggots who push the Gay agenda have no problem of rewriting history to push their agenda.

"In reality, the "gay" Lincoln myth is rooted in the bizarre writings of one Charles Shively, a pro-pedophile academic. His book Drum Beats: Walt Whitman's Civil War Boy Lovers, asserts, for example, that because Lincoln and Speed shared a bed when they rented a room together in their youth, it meant they were homosexuals. Lincoln scholars ridiculed that assertion as nonsense, saying, as one put it, "In those days, bed space was at a premium, so this was very common."20 Michael Burlingame, a leading Lincoln scholar, said, "there is simply no evidence" to support Shively's theory, which, sadly, has since been given a wider audience on the Internet.21"



153 posted on 10/28/2004 7:26:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Pokey78
Oh! Was George Washington gay? How about we start a rumor that all of our Founding Fathers actually left Britain b/c they were all one great big gay fraternity. I bet, since they're not here to rebutt the claims, we can make up a good number of "facts" about them that would point to them being homosexual!

/sarcasm

154 posted on 10/28/2004 7:27:43 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (ABC: Where communists are more credible than American war heroes.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Morning Dave!

Make no mistake, homosexual activists are domestic terrorists of the worst kind. The damage being done to children in many of our public schools is sickening.


155 posted on 10/28/2004 7:35:08 AM PDT by EdReform (Have you seen FAHRENHYPE 9/11? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240926/posts)
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To: ampat

Yeah, why haven't they homo-ized ol George yet?<P.ff


156 posted on 10/28/2004 7:37:05 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Pokey78

you could have pictures of lincoln doing indecent acts, and most republicans still wouldn't believe it... on that count, they are a lot like liberal dems about any matter of truth.


157 posted on 10/28/2004 7:51:54 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: TheForceOfOne
"MODERATOR PLEASE KILL THIS BLOG!"

Blog? What blog? You mean thread?

BTW do you burn books too?
158 posted on 10/28/2004 7:59:10 AM PDT by monday
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To: Pokey78
Was Abe Lincoln Gay? (The blockbuster book that will change America’s history)

Was any Famous American who is dead not gay?

159 posted on 10/28/2004 8:04:13 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: I'm ALL Right!
... since they're not here to rebutt the claims...

Well, that would cinch it.

160 posted on 10/28/2004 8:09:39 AM PDT by decimon
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