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Immigration issue yanked off GOP agenda
Newsday ^ | 8/31/2004 | Anne Q. Hoy

Posted on 08/31/2004 3:46:48 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Even as Michael Bloomberg heralded New York's diversity Monday, President George W. Bush's controversial plan to put in place a temporary worker program is getting no major billing at the Republican National Convention.

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"It seems very clear to us that the White House got the message. There just does not seem to be very much of an appetite there to pursue this," said John Kelley, a spokesman for the Center for Immigration Studies, a non-partisan think tank on immigration issues. "Is any single speaker going to mention the "I" word? I don't think so.

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Outside Madison Square Garden, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), who chairs the House Immigration Reform Caucus and vigorously opposes Bush's plan, did have something to say about the issue. At a sparsely attended news conference, Tancredo renounced the party for failing to revamp the platform's position on immigration.

"The immigration plank in the party platform is full of platitudes, promises and pandering," he said. Tancredo said he and Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser, got into a screaming match over the issue two years ago after the congressman was quoted saying that if the nation suffered another attack at the hands of terrorists able to skirt immigration laws, "the blood of the people killed" would be on the President's and Congress's hands.

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1 posted on 08/31/2004 3:46:49 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

How much does it take for Rove and Co. to get a clue that people are not in favor of more amnesty for illegals and they want serious border control? Rove is either dense or stupid, apparently.


2 posted on 08/31/2004 3:49:31 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Okay...so the administration has dropped the amnesty issue. I hope it's not temporary and they pick it up again after the election. Who knows what promises Bush has made to Vicente Fox that he'll keep once he no longer has to answer to the electorate.

I hope I am wrong.

3 posted on 08/31/2004 3:52:41 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: TomGuy

These people are for a lot of crap that regular ordinary people are against.

But, Leftie groups like Mecha and La Raza like it (and we know how they like to appease the Left), Business likes it (Big and small business likes new customers and cheap labor), and Churches like it (new people to witness to).

Since regular Joe's aren't organized like the above groups are, they aren't listened to.


4 posted on 08/31/2004 3:52:57 PM PDT by Guillermo (A Mohammedan chaplain gave the opening night invocation at the RNC.)
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To: South40

No, they haven't dropped the amnesty issue, they just aren't going to mention it.


5 posted on 08/31/2004 3:53:44 PM PDT by Guillermo (A Mohammedan chaplain gave the opening night invocation at the RNC.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

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6 posted on 08/31/2004 3:55:06 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Sounds a lot like a different strategy is being contrived here. While only 4% of voters are Hispanic, Bush does not want to alienate the approximate 1/3 of that number who will vote for him (in a close election it really matters). So, he takes a kind of temporary neutrality on the issue until Nov 2. Then he seals the border. You heard it from me first.


7 posted on 08/31/2004 3:57:36 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: TomGuy

They better have pulled it. It would absolutely "kill" the momentum shift we are experiencing.

They need to look at two things:

Why spend billions on Homeland Security when we are leaving the back door and front door open?

How important are the Hispanic votes as compared to protecting America, preventing non-Americans from sapping funds from Medicare, and preventing the oncoming voting rights for illegals?

Overall - now is not the time for Bush's plan to raise the income level of Mexico at the expense of American taxpayers, Medicare, our social systems and jobs. In addition, there are the efforts to give voting rights to illegals. What next - change the name of America to Mexico?


8 posted on 08/31/2004 3:59:17 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
There just does not seem to be very much of an appetite there to pursue this

After the election, assuming Bush will be reelected, he has nothing to lose so he will try again to jam this amnesty crap down the American's throats.

9 posted on 08/31/2004 4:01:21 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: TomGuy
"Rove is either dense or stupid, apparently."

None of the above. If Republicans turn their bow toward the immigration problem the Democrats will torpedo the Republicans with it. The Democrats have been very successful in turning immigration, guns, social security, etc. into "third rails" in which to keep the Congress from doing what's right for America.

The trouble with Repubs is that they don't have the stomach to lie to get elected and do what's right for the country.

10 posted on 08/31/2004 4:02:55 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: TomGuy

What do you think Kerry would do with the amnesty issue?


11 posted on 08/31/2004 4:05:29 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Tancredo said he and Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser, got into a screaming match over the issue two years ago after the congressman was quoted saying that if the nation suffered another attack at the hands of terrorists able to skirt immigration laws, "the blood of the people killed" would be on the President's and Congress's hands."

Somebody buy this man a beer. Finally, someone in Washington with a brain when it comes to border security. I honestly think step 2 is for him to get on every network he possibly can to smash and slam anyone who isn't on board with border security the second the polls close for the election.
12 posted on 08/31/2004 4:05:35 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: TomGuy
How much does it take for Rove and Co. to get a clue that people are not in favor of more amnesty for illegals and they want serious border control? Rove is either dense or stupid, apparently.

Rove knows full well what he's doing. I suspect both parties are simply wading in too much special interest cash (ethnic lobbies on the Democratic side, big business on the Republican side) to care at all.

13 posted on 08/31/2004 4:05:40 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: TomGuy
How much does it take for Rove and Co. to get a clue that people are not in favor of more amnesty for illegals

The other night I had dinner with a bunch of hard-core Massachusetts liberals. The only issues we could agree on were: no amnesty for illegals; tighten up the borders.

14 posted on 08/31/2004 4:07:20 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: dalebert
What do you think Kerry would do with the amnesty issue?

I honestly think we're screwed either way. America will become Amexica... time to immigrate back to Eurabi... wait a minute.

Yeah, we're screwed. And our government is putting it just about everywhere it can.

15 posted on 08/31/2004 4:07:58 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: dalebert
"What do you think Kerry would do with the amnesty issue?"

He said nothing about Kerry or voting in that comment. Are you saying we should jump up and down and cheer because our guy managed to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrant border-violating criminals before their guy?
16 posted on 08/31/2004 4:08:47 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: elbucko

If a Republican could shoot out some fiery demagoguery re: immigration, it'd win a TON of votes.


17 posted on 08/31/2004 4:09:57 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: elbucko

If a Republican could shoot out some fiery demagoguery re: immigration, it'd win a TON of votes.


18 posted on 08/31/2004 4:09:57 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: ladyjane
"The other night I had dinner with a bunch of hard-core Massachusetts liberals"

Really cool, this really is an US (regular Americans) vrs THEN (Globalist pigs) issue, great news US will win, I hope.

19 posted on 08/31/2004 4:14:15 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
YADPNS

Yet Another Democrat Planted News Story.

Watch for more and more of these wedge issue stories from "conservatives" trying to split off the Republican base from Bush.

The list goes on:

Are there things to disagree with GWB about? Yep. Is there a chance in hell that allowing Kerry to get elected is a GOOD ALTERNATIVE? No way.

To the Buchannanites and Perotistas: shut up, get in line and hold your nose. You elected Clinton, twice, don't make the same stupid mistake again.

Ironically, you need to listen to the Rolling Stones. You can't always get what you want. But if you try, sometimes, you get what you need.

20 posted on 08/31/2004 4:16:26 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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