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Tyranny of the majority: Smoking ban is just plain wrong
TwinCities.com ^ | May. 20, 2004 | MATTHEW J. GOLLINGER

Posted on 05/21/2004 8:50:48 AM PDT by SheLion

 Tyranny of the majority: Smoking ban is just plain wrong

Posted on Thu, May. 20, 2004 

MATTHEW J. GOLLINGER

As smoking bans have made their way into law across the country, one adage has repeatedly come to mind: "What's right isn't always popular, and what's popular isn't always right."

The St. Paul City Council is threatening to enact a smoking ban. The stink of smoke in clothing, the haze obscuring the stage and sore throats induced by second-hand smoke would be worries of the past. The majority recognizes that these benefits would improve their bar/restaurant experience and pledges their support to the ban.

These benefits can explain the popularity of the proposal, yet they do not justify it. The proposed ban recklessly ignores the ability of the free market to meet public demand. Moreover, free society demands that the majority refrain from such selfish imposition.

Smoking bans make sense in the context of hospitals and airplanes, which are areas of public necessity. Restaurants and bars, however, are recreational venues, where no one is forced to be. The proposed ban is grossly overbroad regulation, marginally increasing the convenience and comfort of the nonsmoking majority by drastically reducing the rights and privileges of the smoking minority. While the clothing of nonsmokers will be good for an extra wearing between washes, smokers will be shooed outside like dogs in the dead of winter.

This is pure selfishness by those favoring the ban. Currently, smokers and nonsmokers are able to enjoy a drink/meal in their venue of choice, nearly all of which have nonsmoking sections. Furthermore, nonsmokers are free to patronize restaurants that have voluntarily banned smoking. If people truly cared about the ban, such establishments would be inundated by those seeking smoke-free hospitality. Extensive advertising would appear to attract all of those nonsmoking dollars to smoke-free joints. The sponsors of the ban seek to take away our ability to "vote with our feet/pocketbook" by eliminating our ability to choose.

The smoking ban grows out of an ever-expanding brand of idiocy; that one has a fundamental right to be free from inconvenience and offense. This insanity is patently un-American. When we venture into the public, whether it be a sidewalk, park, bar or restaurant, we subject ourselves to experiencing the whole of our society. Frequently, our society is not a perfect reflection of who we are, and it offends us. One might be offended at the sight of a homosexual couple kissing, the hearing of a racial epithet or the stench of someone who chooses not to shower.

Tough luck.

While we could outlaw physical contact by members of the same gender, institute speech codes and make showering mandatory, we do not and should not. We do not prohibit these activities because our selfish need for convenience and personal comfort must not interfere with the basic freedoms we enjoy as a society.

The most compelling argument in favor of the ban is that hospitality employees are subjected to a dangerous work environment, polluted by carcinogens. Let me be clear on this point: I do not care. Neither should you.

I have worked as a bartender for the past four years. Though I do not consider myself a smoker, I have inhaled more than my fair share of second-hand smoke. Might this exposure cause long-term adverse health effects? Yes. However, I have grown up in a time when even people living under rocks are well aware that smoking is bad for you. Nevertheless, I chose to work as a bartender and accepted the negative aspects of the job along with the positive ones. As an adult in a free society, I weighed the relevant pros and cons and made the choice to serve drinks. Nobody forced me to get behind that bar, and I certainly don't need the City Council's protection. The implicit condescension and elitism of the sponsors of the smoking ban should infuriate all employees of the hospitality industry.

I like to think that we live in a relatively enlightened community that respects the rights of those who are outnumbered. However, as the smoking ban gains momentum, I am starting to believe that those who support the ban do not care whether such a ban is right, so long as it is popular.

Gollinger is an attorney and part-time bartender.

TwinCities.com


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To: Michael.SF.
.......so that I can enjoy a nice glass of wine, free from the stench of stale cigarette smoke and cheap cigars.

To each their own, Michael.

You must not travel too much. The smoke eaters of today did away with the "stench."

21 posted on 05/21/2004 9:21:50 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: SheLion

I was truly amazed when they introducewd one in Ireland. I haven't been there since (thankfully I moved two weeks before i came in) but I simply couldn't imagine an Irish pub without its haze of smoke.

I'm all for smoke-free areas in bars and restaurants, but only that - areas. Everybody should be accomodated.


22 posted on 05/21/2004 9:22:39 AM PDT by Carcharodon
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To: SheLion

Taliban America. Insha'allah!


23 posted on 05/21/2004 9:25:02 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: VRWC_minion
If they took a minimum of care they might stop the trend. But they won't.

I think that may have been the case ten or twenty years ago, but not anymore. I think too many people now are offended just by the idea of smoking. Just seeing someone in a restaurant or other place lighting up, or knowing that someone, somewhere is enjoying tobacco, is unacceptable to them. No matter how polite a smoker may be, some people will still go to great lengths, including appealing to the state, to eliminate what they see as a fundementally evil act.

24 posted on 05/21/2004 9:25:28 AM PDT by timm22
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To: Gabz
On my way out the door, Friday afternoon date time ya know, but marking for later read!!!!

Heheh! Ok! Have fun, Gabz!!

25 posted on 05/21/2004 9:26:00 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: timm22
....including appealing to the state, to eliminate what they see as a fundementally evil act.

'Ain't' it the truth!

26 posted on 05/21/2004 9:28:01 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: SheLion
Shoot Smokers NOW!

Better yet, castrate and sterilize them! Keep the taxes flowing

27 posted on 05/21/2004 9:30:57 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: cinFLA
Without government you would probably still be flying on smokefilled planes, eating in smokefilled restaurants and sleeping in smoke-stenched rooms with cigarette burns on the bed covers.

Do you lack confidence in the workings of the free market in general, or just on this particular issue?

28 posted on 05/21/2004 9:32:16 AM PDT by timm22
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To: Michael.SF.

Look for the mentally disturbed authoritarians masquerading as conservatives to soon arrive on this thread and begin to attack you.


29 posted on 05/21/2004 9:33:35 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective , freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: Carcharodon
I'm all for smoke-free areas in bars and restaurants, but only that - areas. Everybody should be accomodated.

If the owner of the property feels like accomodating them.

Anything else is tyranny.

30 posted on 05/21/2004 9:36:05 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective , freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: SheLion


31 posted on 05/21/2004 9:38:59 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: noscreenname
Unfortunately this 'trend' is gaining momentum. Our city council (Albuquerque NM) recently enacted a total smoking ban in every restaurant in the city. We have a 30' rule around any building that houses businesses (public and private).

My husband an I went to Wyoming for 2 weeks didn't know it was totally non smoking ... we decided to just eat take out food like McDonald's pizza hutt .. never went to one restaurant there if they don't want smokers money they won't get mine.
32 posted on 05/21/2004 9:39:41 AM PDT by LynnHam
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To: VRWC_minion
Its because smokers don't care that the bans are happening. If they took a minimum of care they might stop the trend. But they won't.

I'm a smoker as most of my friends are. Almost all of us respected non-smokers wishes long before any "bans" came about. Besides, this is still and only a property rights issue.

FMCDH

33 posted on 05/21/2004 9:40:30 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: timm22

I remember sleeping in smoke-stenched rooms with cigarette burns on the covers.

I remember having to share an office with a smoker.

I remember flying in smoke filled planes.

I remember eating in smoke filled restaurants.

I remember the how laws changed all that.


34 posted on 05/21/2004 9:43:37 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

I remember freedom.
I remember property rights.
I remember how some laws changed all that.


35 posted on 05/21/2004 9:50:42 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective , freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: swarthyguy
Shoot (fill in the blanks)---kers NOW! Better yet, castrate and sterilize them! Keep the taxes flowing
36 posted on 05/21/2004 9:53:36 AM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (GUNS: more than I need; not as many as I want.)
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To: VRWC_minion
Wanting to fill a room with smoke because one cannot restrain themselves is pure selfishness.

Beat that straw man! Not being able to restrain oneself has not a damn thing to do with it. But then your smug, self-righteous self already knew that, didn't you.

37 posted on 05/21/2004 9:56:32 AM PDT by MileHi (The ballot box is corrupt, the soap box spews leftist propaganda, that leaves....)
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To: timm22

See the looks you get when you simply hold a cig in a Taliban establishment. People literally look at you funny, hey, wait, maybe that's because of the kaffiyeh on my head.


38 posted on 05/21/2004 9:56:54 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: SheLion
I say if a fellow walks into a restaurant, and sets fire to a limited amount of weeds, to satisfy a compulsion to inhale the smoke---this doesn't make him a disorderly person under the law.

As long as he doesn't yell "Fire!" he shouldn't be prosecuted.

OTOH the management shouldn't be legally obliged to serve him.

39 posted on 05/21/2004 9:58:52 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: SheLion
I have no problem with some smoking bans. I do think others go too far. But I would favor a ban on gay kissing in public. What's the difference in that and public nudity? It offends the moral sense of the majority, so do it in private. They sell legalizing gay sex to us as a privacy of the bedroom issue and then they spend 24/7 cramming it in our faces. Go back to your bedrooms like you promised.

Smoking is not so much a moral issue as a health issue. I think it is not tyranny for the majority to decide they do not want to tolerate public smoking. It is an issue that affects everyone present, not just the one that chooses to smoke. We are selfish. That the author is correct about. But the selfishness is just as much on the side of the in-your-face smoker as it is on the side of those who wish to not have smoke in their face. We are a selfish generation with the collective wisdom of a gnat. We might be very cute and clever, but we are a pack of nearsighted, arrogant fools (generally speaking and not including most freepers).

Back when liberty was worth fighting for it meant something entired deeper than whether or not you get to puff smoke in people's faces and flaunt your immorality with court-ordered public blessings. These are the issues of a spoiled generation.

40 posted on 05/21/2004 10:03:11 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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