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I have an honest question. Is there any room to discuss the issues some people have with some of President Bush's Domestic policies, without getting into flame wars and name calling on either side.

Is there a way to allow people to blow off a bit of steam ,and then see what we can do about getting the third party people back.

I agree with 100% that if we don't get President Bush reelected we are in big trouble, but I am afraid that if we can not get the message to him that danger is brewing and he needs to take heed, that our job will be insurmountable.

I have already gone on the record as being upset.

IMHO, the only way to reclaim some of the more level headed posters, who like myself were strong supporters of the President and could be again, is to listen to their concerns and try together to see if we can get things done to get Bush reelected, to see if we can reach him.

We know Freepers can get things done when we work together and we have seen it a whole bunch of times.

I am not sure exactly how to do this, but tearing each other apart, is just what the Dems would like to see.

We all could spend this energy on something more constructive, like seeing if we can the President to come back a bit. I think most of us can agree that there is some work to do on his domestic policies.

He really needs to know what the voters are thinking. Is there an organized, helpful way to do that without flame wars?

BTW- Calling President Bush a Nazi, and a liar about the War, and a deserter in the military is out right disgusting, and I do not ever condone that in any way.

...but I am afraid that if we can not get the message to him that danger is brewing and he needs to take heed, that our job will be insurmountable.

There isn't that much danger brewing. It's just that those who claim "danger" are so vocal. Bush's support among his true base remains at 97-98%, and is in fact higher than Reagan's during his administration.

I'm of the opinion that encouraging third party dissent here is counter-productive to our purpose. (That doesn't mean that we rubber stamp everything that comes down the pike. But, if one's objective is to see this country move forward toward recovering the conservative ground we've lost over the last 50+ years, one must see the big picture and not get bogged down in petty single "my way or the highway" issues.)

I have an honest question. Is there any room to discuss the issues some people have with some of President Bush's Domestic policies, without getting into flame wars and name calling on either side.

I don't think we need a room as much as some people need to grow up and act like adults instead of spoiled little kids. Seems if they don't get their way they name call or pick up their ball and go home. Some of the name calling is beyond ridiculous.

Personally would like to see some honest debate among Freepers, find out where we have common ground, and build on that common ground to get Pres Bush reelected. We have to find a way to send a message without people threatening to stay home and not vote or worse yet vote for a DemocRAT.

Personally think the concerns have to be addressed and if I cannot defend the President, then I had better go do my homework. I don't always agree 100%, but I don't agree with a whole lot of people 100% -- cannot name one off the top of my head. The discussion has to return to legitimate questions not to attacking the President personally or attacking the Freeper that asked the question. By the same token, Freepers asking the same question over and over again on multiple threads when you have an answer has to stop -- it is irritating as heck.

My recommendation would be to have one thread on a topic such as Immigration where legitimate questions/concerns are listed with reasonable suggestions on how people would fix the problem. Saying round them all up and deport them is not a reasonable solution since it is not going to happen. There are a ton of illegals here with children who are US citizens. There has to be some common ground as we all agree there is a problem. Why not try to come up with workable suggestions so that we can all contact our Congressmen and tell them to get to work on solving the problem? So much anger has been focused at the President but he only proposes -- Congress is where we need to concentrate and Congress is also who sends the message that will be heard in the White House.

Senator Nickles from my State of Oklahoma said that ten years ago Republicans and Democrats used to fight like cats and dogs on the floor of the Senate and then go out to eat together because they didn't do personal attacks. Maybe we could learn a lesson here on FR -- you can vehemently disagree about a policy without being disagreeable. Lower the anger and animosity and we might find we have more common ground then some suspect.

Anyone who cannot agree that very liberal, pro-abortion John Kerry would be bad for this Country then they are not worth my time and are not conservative IMO. The next problem is how to get people to support the President in November so we don't get John Kerry. We have got to be united because we could have four Supreme Court Justices retire and we cannot let a John Kerry name new Justices that will forever change the Country for our children.

Open to suggestions as to how we unite the forum that has become split over a few issues. We have got to find that common ground before November.

I am willing to work at doing just that. When I came on here, I was in such a minority as a Bush supporter that this seems easy compared to that. You get people on your side not by attacking but by being reasonable and willing to answer their questions and concerns. Looking for one vote at a time and if it takes my listening to every gripe in the book for one vote, I will do just that!