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1 posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper
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"This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

The bottom line truth.
756 posted on 01/13/2004 3:36:53 PM PST by Beck_isright (After 8 years of Caligula, now we get Nero.)
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"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime...This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Only the most truly delusion Bush apologists can refute Savage on these points with a clear conscience.

769 posted on 01/13/2004 3:54:31 PM PST by F16Fighter
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This guy supported McCain in the primary, right?
831 posted on 01/13/2004 6:15:05 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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....sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking.

Well, this sure stands out as bogus.

Criminals are NOT deported for these types of crimes, they do the prison time no matter what their status is.

841 posted on 01/13/2004 6:34:16 PM PST by Bullish
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latest results from the poll on www.worldnetdaily.com


Should President Bush be impeached from office over his immigration plan?

No, it's a bad idea, but not an impeachable offense 20.53% (1735)


No, it's terribly destructive, but helping a Democrat win in November is worse 20.25% (1711)


Yes, it's tantamount to treason by inviting a mass invasion 18.31% (1547)


No, though controversial, it hasn't eroded my support for Bush 16.21% (1370)


Yes, this cynical plan to gain Hispanic votes is an outrage 6.63% (560)


Yes, Bush is flouting the law and destroying American culture 6.46% (546)


Yes, it's a serious setback to national security during this war on terror 3.86% (326)


Yes, it plays into hands of radical Mexicans looking to 'take back' U.S. land 3.51% (297)


No, legal status for illegals is the right policy 2.97% (251)


Other 1.28% (108)





TOTAL VOTES: 8451
844 posted on 01/13/2004 6:50:52 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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Savage wants people to die from AIDS and wants to impeach Bush.

Savage needs to go away quietly.

901 posted on 01/13/2004 8:35:29 PM PST by Jorge
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W'04 :^)
912 posted on 01/13/2004 9:05:46 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Interesting discussion bump.
978 posted on 01/13/2004 11:25:55 PM PST by PGalt
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I've been listening to Savage for a while now. He and my step-father were practically separated at birth. He (step-dad) never misses Savages show. Because of this, step father says he won't vote for Bush ever again. He almost didn't vote for him in the 2000 election, thanks to Savage.

I had an odd thought about this. (Putting on tin foil hat now). What if Savage is not at all what he seems?

I've come up with 2 conclusions about him. He's either

A. A not so very smart, very emotional, occasionally irrational, conservative.

or

B. He's an absolutely brilliant operative for the democrats. (think Tokyo Rose here)

If he is B. my hats off to the democrats-a magnificent strategy if I ever saw one.

Let me point out why I think he might be B.

First of all, there's stepfather not voting for Bush. This is directly related to his listening to Savage=Benefits Democrats
Savage claims he used to be a Social Worker=Leftist career
He lives in San Francisco=extreme leftist city
He has a PHD= he'd be smart enough to pretend to be on our side, but actually be working for their side.

He demoralizes conservatives-that's why I referred to Tokyo Rose-she tried to destroy the morale of our troops he does that to conservatives, and he always does it during election time.=benefits democrats

He tries to go after Bush any time he can. He cuts him no slack, gives him no benefit of the doubt and attempts to inflict maximum damage. He tells people he's not going to vote at all- stay home=benefit democrats

I remember during the Iraq War, he was a total downer. He predicted gloom and doom for our troops, I remember him saying something like "Our sons and daughters are at the hands of soulless ghouls"= Very emotional, and negative. He ripped Bush, said the troops weren't being supported I mean he just about came unglued.(like the liberals did). He didn't sound very much different than the 'rats and their "quagmire" and "body-bags coming home by the thousands" rhetoric. Benefit=democrats

What about how emotional he does get. I mean our side doesn't get that emotional-but lefties do.

What if the democrats found someone smart enough (PHD) to pretend to be a conservative talk radio host, but, who really uses his influence to demoralize the right, at strategic moments, into not supporting their candidate?

Some things I can say about Savage are that he's very colorful, very creative, and has a flair for language and words. He's a very unique individual, no matter what side he's playing for- I'll give him that.

But, even creativity is something that points , traditionally, a bit more to the left than to the right-The hollywood stars and music people tend to be lefties

Even the name "Savage" sort of seems to imply extremism, hate exc.. it's something the left would call us.

What if somebody did a psychological profile of the average conservative voter and what would appeal them , and then set out to become that profile? Savage talks about the 50's, plays the music from that time (Ilike this by the way). That was the Ike era right? It would appeal. He says things in his books that most conservatives would like to say, but can't or won't.

If I'm wrong, my apologies to Mr. Savage. If I'm right my applause to him for a brilliant strategy (remember the Russian CIA guy who turned out to be a big-time spy against our country? Everybody was shocked and didn't believe it at first).

The strongest reason I have to believe this is because Savage never misses an opportunity to put Bush down, I mean never. Anytime he can turn the knife, he does.

He talks the talk, but, he doesn't walk the walk. (taking off tin foil hat now)

1,064 posted on 01/14/2004 12:41:11 AM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA-Vote a Democrat out of office)
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The 8-10 million illegal number almost rivals Mitch Snyder's homeless hype from years ago.
1,105 posted on 01/14/2004 6:12:00 AM PST by PGalt (Freepers - the most informed citizens on the planet.)
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Great article.
Sure is funny how so many are attacking the messenger.
1,115 posted on 01/14/2004 8:03:49 AM PST by moehoward
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Michael Savage is exactly right. Bush's amnesty scheme is the worst policy proposal--by far--put forth by any President in my lifetime. If enacted, it threatens our national existence: the amnesty would encourage millions of more illegal immigrants to come and the so-called guest worker portion would allow for potentially unlimited immigration by low-wage Third World immigrants, thereby driving down American wages, creating many more foreign enclaves, and giving substantial reinforcement to the forces of muliticulturalism and political correctness.

Eventually, we would likely see the decline of middle class America and the rise of an economic structure along Latin American lines, with Spanish as an official language to boot.

1,234 posted on 01/14/2004 4:42:14 PM PST by Thorin
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If we ever needed proof that the Republican Party has been taken over by the Democrats, here it is. They are now creating "victim groups" just like the RATs do. And you're a RACIST if you oppose. Does this sound Conservative to you? LOL THEY belong on DU, not us.
1,237 posted on 01/14/2004 9:00:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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