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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: exmarine
There are many things Bush has done that make me wonder. his support for affirmative action (Univ. of MI), his sucking up to China at the expense of Taiwan and the people there who want FREEDOM. I thought Bush was a champion of Freedom? You have some 'splainin' to do about your hero.

Wow. You have some bizarre definitions of Christian behavior. Sorry, ex, I am not a far-right fringe nut. I can understand why GWB, a great Christian man whom you loathe (not surprisingly), scares you. Then again, GWB is an outspoken Christian and a very happy man.

1,221 posted on 01/14/2004 2:35:27 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: exmarine
I'm done with you.

Washinton was a Deist as you know. That's why he didn't claim Christ as his Savior.

1,222 posted on 01/14/2004 2:35:59 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Texas_Dawg
Washinton was a Deist as you know. That's why he didn't claim Christ as his Savior.

You don't even know what a deist is! I have already refuted that silly claim in an earlier post.

1,223 posted on 01/14/2004 2:36:54 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
You realize Jesus wasn't from Alabama, right? I just want to make sure.
1,224 posted on 01/14/2004 2:37:47 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Texas_Dawg
It is now obvious that you are DISHONEST. You refuse to defend your hero's anti-christian statements and can provide no evidence for your claims about Washington. You are not up to this debate. This is my final post. Good day.
1,225 posted on 01/14/2004 2:38:46 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
It is now obvious that you are DISHONEST. You refuse to defend your hero's anti-christian statements and can provide no evidence for your claims about Washington. You are not up to this debate. This is my final post. Good day.

I disagree with him that Islam is a peaceful religion, but I understand what he was trying to do in a 50/50 country. I'm sorry, exmarine, but I am just not an angry, isolationist misanthrope. I wonder how you recognize your extreme anger (and utter hatred for GWB and so many other people) with your claim to believe in Jesus Christ. It's a pretty lousy witness, man.

1,226 posted on 01/14/2004 2:49:10 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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reconcile, I mean
1,227 posted on 01/14/2004 2:49:36 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Texas_Dawg
I disagree with him that Islam is a peaceful religion, but I understand what he was trying to do in a 50/50 country

Oh it was much worse than that. Bush said that muslims and Christians worship the SAME GOD. Got an excuse for that statement? Are Allah and Jesus the same God? hmm?

1,228 posted on 01/14/2004 2:51:42 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I wonder how you recognize your extreme anger (and utter hatred for GWB and so many other people) with your claim to believe in Jesus Christ. It's a pretty lousy witness, man.

That's right - attack me instead of the issue. Typical of your style... That's a logical fallacy called ad hominem (attack the man not the issue). I am merely speaking the truth about GWB's statements. If something I said he said is wrong, then prove it. However, if what I say is true, then does truth = hatred? Not in my bible.

1,229 posted on 01/14/2004 2:55:03 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You are right about one thing: I am hopping mad at Bush! This amnesty proposal will be the final blow to our dying sovereignty in my opinion. It's a betrayal - a slap in the face. And I am not the only one. A poll online said 58% of REPUBLICANS oppose this proposal!!! Many more in my newspaper and online said they are as mad as I am and are now abandoning their loyalty to Bush. I am not alone pal. This is big! Are they all Bush haters? I voted for Bush but never again - unless he does a turnaround on some things.
1,230 posted on 01/14/2004 2:59:33 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Like I say, Good riddance. I'd be very embarrassed if you were a member of my church or political party, actually. I can only imagine you screaming about illegals in between your standard "Jesus is man-God" schpiel. Embarrassing.

More personal attacks...That is all you can do because you are got slaughtered in the arguments.

I haven't met one conservative yet, out of thousands I know, who won't be voting for him. I have met a lot of angry misanthropes like you who hate him though. But the roots of that hatred usually have very little to do with GWB, as you know.

Then you must be blind. I counted 6-8 on this thread alone. Of course, you do have blinders on - GWB can do no wrong in your eyes.

Conservative? hahaha. Bush is a big govt. liberal and his policies prove it! I will not stoop to your level and attack your faith in such slanderous ways. I merely stated facts about Bush's comments and actions - you refuted precisely NONE of them - your response was to attack the messenger. As Jack Nicholson said, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! hahaha.

1,232 posted on 01/14/2004 3:26:42 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: sfRummygirl; Texas_Dawg
You appear to be really simple-minded. Still wondering how you made that 'poll' in your tag line.>>>>>>>>

I notice 'dawg' removed his offensive tagline that carried the BIG LIE. Guess he 'simply' invented this accusation TOO.

Just another disrupter, full of accusations & NO PROOF to back-up what he says or writes.

You know the type, the US has millions. Rules/laws 'just don't apply to them'.
1,233 posted on 01/14/2004 4:23:56 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: JustPiper
Michael Savage is exactly right. Bush's amnesty scheme is the worst policy proposal--by far--put forth by any President in my lifetime. If enacted, it threatens our national existence: the amnesty would encourage millions of more illegal immigrants to come and the so-called guest worker portion would allow for potentially unlimited immigration by low-wage Third World immigrants, thereby driving down American wages, creating many more foreign enclaves, and giving substantial reinforcement to the forces of muliticulturalism and political correctness.

Eventually, we would likely see the decline of middle class America and the rise of an economic structure along Latin American lines, with Spanish as an official language to boot.

1,234 posted on 01/14/2004 4:42:14 PM PST by Thorin
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To: exmarine
I personally know thousands of conservatives that voted for GWB the first time and will be voting for him again next time. I do not personally know nor have I met even one who has told me or anyone else I know that they will not be voting for GWB this November, fwiw.
1,235 posted on 01/14/2004 6:05:17 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: jaugust
The DoI is THE MOST relevant aspect of the USC.

You and I agree. What good is a code of law, if its not understood that all laws fall from one simple premise, your rights as a citizen and a human being come from the Creator.
1,236 posted on 01/14/2004 6:11:42 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: JustPiper
If we ever needed proof that the Republican Party has been taken over by the Democrats, here it is. They are now creating "victim groups" just like the RATs do. And you're a RACIST if you oppose. Does this sound Conservative to you? LOL THEY belong on DU, not us.
1,237 posted on 01/14/2004 9:00:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: drc43
Doesn't it strike you as odd that Jorge fights for illegals but won't take a stand for his Conservative Judicial nominees?
1,238 posted on 01/14/2004 9:02:44 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: MEG33
I thought Impeach Bush was extreme.

Only if you're a Democrat. Or Neocon.
1,239 posted on 01/14/2004 9:04:07 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: Axiom Nine
Tax them on what? Minimum wage? LOL Oh that will make us rich!
1,240 posted on 01/14/2004 9:05:28 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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