Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan

WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

[Dane]

Congress will stop it, wonder if Bush will veto?

Uh JP, how can Bush veto anything not passed by Congress.

JMO, calm down and try to get some help for your hysteria. The world is not coming to an end.

[exmarine]

See post 710. Declaration is law by the authority of SCOTUS.

[Dane]

it IS absolutely the end of our nation.

Zippy, JMO, but maybe you should take the advice I gave to JP in reply #721.

[Dane]

But I have lost all respect for Bush.

I suspect you never had any in the first place.

[exmarine]

Just like I thought, you are avoiding the question, and changing the subject. I will reiterate: If you ignore the supreme court, when it interprets the constitution, because they allow abortion, you have "trashed" them. You have put them in the trash. Thrown them away. Disposed of them. Remember your own posts? Then, if you withhold your vote for GW, you throw the election to the democRATs. So; what conclusion does this lead to? I leads to a democRAT president, with a supreme court that has been disposed of. Get it? Now, show me where I'm wrong.

The supreme court allowed abortion -that makes them ARBITRARY RULERS as much as Dred Scott made Taney's court ARBITRARY RULERS. They said that an unborn child is not a person. They said that the little creature with the flailing legs and clasping hands - that had the scissors inserted into its skull - is not a person! Abortion is murder. Period. What does that make the Supreme Court? You tell me. You make another excuse!

[Zipporah]

"At least this way we can monitor (at least to the extent of the INS's sub-par abilities) and TAX them".. I don't want to burst your bubble.. but how are we to monitor them? They are supposed to have a 3-year plan for working in the US.. now how will they end this? There is no plan for that.. and how would they, considering they won't enforce the laws NOW on the books.

Also, consider that MOST Mexicans believe that the SW should be taken back ..everything for "La Raza"..why would we INVITE revolutionaries into our country? "Experts say it is only a matter of time before Mexico declares jurisdiction over the American Southwest"..

As it is now, there are 5 cities in the US that have close to 50% immigrant population.. with family reunification, that number could soar.

[Poohbah]

Thank you - I did not think about court cases, but these are definitely LAW.

OK, so you approve of court decisions that cite material other than the Constitution of the United States and the statute in question? Do you like judicial activism?

[Zipporah]

Daney.. first of all, I don't need to calm down.. you need to read the writing on the wall.. and 2ndly.. much to your amazement I'm sure, I voted for Bush.. and supported him..til he has revealed that he is anything but conservative.

[exmarine]

I believe the Constitution is embued with the principles of the Declaration of Indpendence, and I can make a case for it. The founding fathers certainly thought so - they only wrote it! Both documents provide for rights, and both are undergirded by judeo-Christian principles. I Know you hate that don't you- you don't want God in anything do you? Too bad - He's there.

[Poohbah]

See post 710. Declaration is law by the authority of SCOTUS.

So's abortion and sodomy.

What was that complaining about activist judges?

[Marine Inspector]

In the search blank, just type in "Declaration of Independence" chief and then check out the 4457 hits!

LOL, 1 hit goes to the "Declaration of Independence", which IS NOT part of the US code and the other hits go to the words "Declaration" or "Independence".

[exmarine]

I suppose you know by now that I have zero respect for the darwinian gods in black robes on the Supreme Court. I respect their office, however, which is more than I can say for a justice who doesn't follow the Constitution when making a ruling.

[exmarine]

So's abortion and sodomy.

The difference is that the citations about the declaration are consistent with the founder's intent. Abortion isn't and neither is sodomy. Abortion is clearly murder and denies that baby its due process. What crime did it commit before its execution? Who is some moron of a man to say when personhood begins? What is his authority for such an insane ruling? Dr. Mengele perhaps? Any rational person can see that "it's a baby stupid"

[Dane]

Daney.. first of all, I don't need to calm down.. you need to read the writing on the wall.. and 2ndly.. much to your amazement I'm sure, I voted for Bush.. and supported him..til he has revealed that he is anything but conservative

Sorry I don't read hyperbolic writing wriiten in crayon on the wall.

You are parroting what was said 100 years ago. Were still here, stronger than ever.

[JustPiper]

With no chance of assimilation. People here are touting its temporary, only 3 years, they are not realizing- It is RENEWABLE

More folks need to familiarize themselves with FAIR!

Get Real People

[exmarine]

Doesn't matter...Declaration embued the moral principles by which we gained our nationhood, and are also imbued within the U.S. Constitution. The Declaration makes no statement of positive Law, but lays out the moral case for independence from tyranny, and recognized that rights come from God not from arbitrary rulers like King George, or for that matter, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, or the Supreme Court, or Bush. They are INALIENABLE. You can't change what the founders clearly believed and stated. You can only change the form of government that they instituted, or pervert it, which is what has happened.

[Poohbah]

I believe the Constitution is embued with the principles of the Declaration of Indpendence, and I can make a case for it.

Let me know if you actually start doing so. You still have not established your claim that the Declaration of Independence is incorporated as "organic law" into the United States Code.

The founding fathers certainly thought so - they only wrote it!

It doesn't change the fact that you haven't proved your initial assertion.

Both documents provide for rights, and both are undergirded by judeo-Christian principles.

You still haven't proved your initial assertion. Please show the relevant Title and Section of the United States Code that proves your assertion.

I Know you hate that don't you- you don't want God in anything do you?

And now you've graduated to claiming that you can read minds. Unfortunately, you're about as good at mind-reading as you are at citing the United States Code. That entire statement is false.

[The_Eaglet]

Well, Clinton's sale of hi-tech weaponry to China, who also plans to destroy us, is the worst".. Actually, Bush's immigration proposal is worse

I agree with you that Bush's welcome of illegal aliens is wrong because he failed to defend us from foreign lawbreakers. Regardless of which is worse, they are both wrong.

[Zipporah]

Get on the cluebus, you missed your stop.

[e_engineer]

The reason we don't have a president who's conservative enough to suit you, is because that kind of candidate is totally unelectable

If moving to the left is making Bush so much more electable, then why are the Bushbots complaining? You have nothing to worry about if us conservatives decide not to vote for him. He will be picking up so many new liberal votes that it won't matter.

So just relax, let us rant.

Don't worry yourself over the fact that these threads grow so long, and there are clearly a lot of angry conservatives about.