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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: exmarine
Direct Democracies of history have no constitution to speak of, no protection for rights.....

You're the first one to mention a direct democracy. There's a word for that, but it escapes me right now. A democracy may or may not have a constitution, same as a republic. You're equating democracy with mob rule. Time to go back to a real school (where did you go to school again?)

561 posted on 01/13/2004 12:26:22 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: JustPiper
I would say not impeachable, but he will not get my vote again.
562 posted on 01/13/2004 12:26:54 PM PST by FloridaBoy
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To: Capitalist Eric
That's nice. A lot of economists, such as Milton Friedman and George Bush's economic advisors completely disagree with you that instantly removing 10 million workers from the labor force would be a good thing. You have a bunch of bizarre hysteria about things that simply are not happening, and that's why your side is losing this argument so heavily. Most people simply don't care about people immigrating from Mexico to work.
563 posted on 01/13/2004 12:27:36 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: Poohbah
Go look it up yourself.
564 posted on 01/13/2004 12:27:49 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: T.Smith
You are welcome to say it as often as you like. In fact it is a good thing to remind our fellow Americans.
565 posted on 01/13/2004 12:28:00 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: FloridaBoy
I would say not impeachable, but he will not get my vote again.

Because he attempted to fix a situation that already exists by doing something that will make the situation better? I really doubt you ever voted for him in the first place.

566 posted on 01/13/2004 12:28:54 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: exmarine
hahaha. I didn't see any right to privacy in there. Where is it? Yes, you digress....people who are misinformed often do that.

Sigh. I suppose you need a right written in nice big crayon for you to believe it exists. So, then, what's the point of the 9th Amendment if it doesn't preserve the existence of non-enumerated rights?

567 posted on 01/13/2004 12:29:54 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Most people simply don't care about people immigrating from Mexico to work."

That is funny from EVERY poll I have ever seen from O'Reilly, Hannity, and many others say that Immigration LEGAL and ILLEGAL should be slowed down HARD AND FAST!

Now with that said where are you pulling numbers that say the MAJORITY of Americans do not care about Mexicans coming to work here in the U.S. ??

568 posted on 01/13/2004 12:30:24 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: B4Ranch
Bump! Ranch why are there over 500 posts just since 8AM? Scared to read the responses ;)
569 posted on 01/13/2004 12:32:55 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Poohbah
Kindly provide a US Code citation to back your claim.

The only thing in the US Code relating the Declaration of Independence to any Constitution or law is the adoption of Hawaii as a state in 1949 where Congress states that the Hawaii constitution cannot be repugnant to the principle of the Declaration of Independence. I think some people around here read too many blogs and opinions of constitutional interpreters rather than the facts at hand. ; )

570 posted on 01/13/2004 12:33:00 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: exmarine; Poohbah
Go look it up yourself.

You made the claim, you provide the evidence. That's the way it works.

571 posted on 01/13/2004 12:33:34 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: exmarine; m1-lightning; Modernman
Your comment is simply outrageous. The declaration laid out the principles by which this nation fought and won its independence, as well as the earth-shaking declaration that rights come from God not men. relic huh? Then why is it organic law in the U.S. Code?

You have made this claim numerous times. Kindly provide a US Code citation to back your claim. I shan't hold my breath waiting for the cite, though--I hear asphyxiation is not a pleasant way to die, and you've never come through before.

Go look it up yourself.

You made the assertion. You either can provide proof to support your assertion, or you can lose the argument. Which one do you choose? But it's nice to see that some people are consistent.

Please show where the Declaration of Independence is organic law in the U.S. Code. It should be remarkably easy for someone who claims to know so much about the U.S. Code to tell us lesser mortals where to find that citation.

572 posted on 01/13/2004 12:34:51 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Marine Inspector

My homepage sure wears my heart on its sleeve

573 posted on 01/13/2004 12:35:05 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Yeah... they care a lot obviously.

Do you really think this is going to hurt Bush in the elections (as much as you want it to)?

574 posted on 01/13/2004 12:35:46 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: FITZ
China=Clinton
Bush=Mexico
575 posted on 01/13/2004 12:37:27 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Savage is emotional , raw, caustic and yes at times savage, but I thought he was liked here?
576 posted on 01/13/2004 12:38:50 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: freebilly
Are you against Bush's proposal? That will determine if you are being face-tous ;)
577 posted on 01/13/2004 12:41:27 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Poohbah
Okay, I'll look it up just to prove YOU WRONG. It may take a little time, but I'll make it a project to find it. Satisfied? And when I do find it, I'll make sure you know about it in this public forum.
578 posted on 01/13/2004 12:42:06 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Modernman
Sigh. I suppose you need a right written in nice big crayon for you to believe it exists. So, then, what's the point of the 9th Amendment if it doesn't preserve the existence of non-enumerated rights?

Hahaha. According to your phantom method, I could make killing jews a right under the 9th amendment.

579 posted on 01/13/2004 12:43:26 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Bush really kicked allot of Americans in the teeth real hard with this. And of course he will lose lots of votes. Mine included. Now the question is who I vote for? Fun!
580 posted on 01/13/2004 12:43:40 PM PST by ezo4
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