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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: arm958
I filed as an independent yesterday. I have been a Republcan since I was 19 years old. Never voted for any other candidate other than a Republican.
281 posted on 01/13/2004 9:30:18 AM PST by riri
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Oh really? Look to my post then

What does that change about what I stated? I still have never met one conservative, out of thousands I know, that is not voting for GWB in November.

282 posted on 01/13/2004 9:31:19 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
On the other hand, I have heard a HUGE number of Democrats say that they WILL vote for Bush in November.
283 posted on 01/13/2004 9:32:22 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Happy2BMe
"Nothing is more important than moral principle."

Except votes . .

Reality is hard to accept for some people. Democracy is even harder. The President is not a dictator- he doesn't rule by decree. He has to be mindful that his party gets about 50% of the vote in this country. Sometimes more, sometimes less. At least half the voters in this country would not support a pure conservative candidate. So, Bush can either make some compromises and be 75% conservative, or he can try to go the whole hog and watch the Dems take the White House and Congress.

Maybe anti-Bush FReepers would feel better with Dean in the White House? If not, what's the alternative to Bush.

Politics means accepting the lesser of two evils. Grown-ups understand that. Children stamp their feet and demand ideological/moral purity.

284 posted on 01/13/2004 9:33:13 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Texas_Dawg
It's the BORDER - not the votes.

Protect the BORDER, not political careers.

285 posted on 01/13/2004 9:33:30 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: riri
What we have here is people that love thier party more then thay love thier country.

Did you see this

What conservative would have believed in 1999 that a Republican house, a Republican Senate and a Republic President would oversee the largest expansion of the federal government since LBJ. Who could of guessed that the GOP would turn out to be bigger spenders than the Democrats? That George Bush has less respect for the law and the Constitution then Bill Clinton?

Now that Bush has busted the budget he wants to bust the borders. He also wants to spent 1 trillion dollars that we don’t have on a Mars mission. One freaking trillion dollars! Bush has lost his mind, if he ever had one. Anyone that votes for him in the next election loves their party more then their country.

286 posted on 01/13/2004 9:33:33 AM PST by jpsb (")
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To: riri
So you're voting for Dean et al.?
287 posted on 01/13/2004 9:34:03 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I have heard a HUGE number of Democrats say that they WILL vote for Bush in November.

I know quite few relatives in my family who are Dems who will vote for GWB this year.

288 posted on 01/13/2004 9:35:13 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: jim35
Maybe Bush is a Freemason! /sarcasm off

He is, actually. He's never been all that into it, though. I hear he's a serious Stonecutter, though.

289 posted on 01/13/2004 9:35:13 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Modernman
Grown-ups understand that. Children stamp their feet and demand ideological/moral purity.

Amen.

It's like asking someone who they want to win the Super Bowl. You can say "neither team" and that you just don't care (which is fine), but to name some team that lost earlier in the playoffs, just because they are your favorite team, is what a 6-year-old would do.

290 posted on 01/13/2004 9:35:35 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: riri
It is insane isn't it? I can't believe some of the stuff I see being written. I'd swear it was coming straight from the mouth of a liberal somewhere. I don't even think many of them realize just how brainwashed they have become. They have been told balck is white so many times they are starting to look at it and say "Well, it may not be white but it is a really, really light shade of grey" Some of these people, I am convinced, are disruptors of a sort. Trying to move the party further to the left. But some of them, yeesh, I don't even think they realize what they are doing.

I hope you don't think that the other side isn't looking at you all the exact same way.

291 posted on 01/13/2004 9:35:52 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Modernman
You don't think the American culture and penchant for liberty, the solemn dignity of our Constitution, and the reverence of our ancestors is worth keeping?

Because if you are not taught to revere the Constitution and the principles that make you free, you won't keep it. People flooding this country illegally couldn't care less about the constitution or maintaining liberty in their own countries. Why would they do anything to protect American culture?
292 posted on 01/13/2004 9:36:44 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: riri
I filed as an independent yesterday. I have been a Republcan since I was 19 years old. Never voted for any other candidate other than a Republican.

Good riddance. The less Buchananites in our party, the better.

293 posted on 01/13/2004 9:36:45 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: m1-lightning
"...That doesn't make them non-christian. Walls were built in cities of old to keep out the untrusted and it was not refuted by Christ..."

Man, don't you get tired of non-Christians telling Christians how they should behave, as good Christians? As if they have a clue! Just what kind of Howard Dean ideas of Christianity are running loose out there?
294 posted on 01/13/2004 9:37:22 AM PST by jim35
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To: BigSkyFreeper
It's going to be big, IMO.
295 posted on 01/13/2004 9:38:13 AM PST by Howlin
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To: hedgetrimmer
Why would they do anything to protect American culture?

You mean like Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez?

296 posted on 01/13/2004 9:38:15 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: Modernman
Where is the proof that Bush is a Freemason?
297 posted on 01/13/2004 9:39:28 AM PST by Howlin
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To: jim35
Man, don't you get tired of non-Christians telling Christians how they should behave, as good Christians? As if they have a clue! Just what kind of Howard Dean ideas of Christianity are running loose out there?

If you follow the thread, no one did that here. And I'm a Christian, fwiw. Most of the anti-immigration FReepers are not.

298 posted on 01/13/2004 9:39:43 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: bootless
tax cuts only have value to people with meaningful incomes. any actions taken to depress wages, turns those people into democrats. the private sector middle class is the backbone of the republican electorate in the US, any "one shot" votes for Bush by pandering to hispanics will be short lived, short enough to get him elected in 2004, but bad long term. remember who is running for president in 2008? do you want to see her get elected?
299 posted on 01/13/2004 9:40:33 AM PST by oceanview
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To: riri
Well, thats just great. I'm filing as a Republican as I've always done and voting straightline Republican for the first time since 1992.
300 posted on 01/13/2004 9:40:47 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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