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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: sfRummygirl
I'm not very into the Kumbayya crowd. Their passive aggressive is just as emotional, but they think they are above others with it.

Bump

1,181 posted on 01/14/2004 12:49:33 PM PST by riri
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Always for my troops! Bush made me cry when he flew onto that ship. Bush made me cry at Thanksgiving visiting our troops. Bush made me cry abandoning our border's and caring more about Mars too.
1,182 posted on 01/14/2004 12:50:55 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: exmarine
Liberalism is even more ugly in the GOP than it is in the donkey party

And the frightening part is it may be beginning to be more rampant.

To quite the New Radicals

Maybe you've been brainwashed too?

1,183 posted on 01/14/2004 12:53:00 PM PST by riri
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To: ZULU
A political party which ignores the wishes of its constituents has no long term future, regardless of how it might it perform in the short run. My guess is a much watered down version of Bush's prgoram will be adopted if we persist.

I know your right but Bush's intent was not noble

1,184 posted on 01/14/2004 12:53:00 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Ummm... sorry, but mentioning Christianity and even praising it does not, by any means whatsoever, mean someone has been eternally saved by Jesus Christ.

You are being dishonest and I am about to disengage with you unless you come clean. I won't tolerate your dishonesty. I repeat the quotes which very clearly says Washington WAS A CHRISTIAN - anyone can see that what they say, and also see that you are denying words that are in black and white:

"He was a sincere believer in the Christian faith and a truly devout man." John Marshall, Sec. of State, Chieef Justice of the Supreme Court.

"I should have thought it the greatest heresy to doubt his firm belief in Christianity." Washington's adopted daughter.

According to his adopted daughter and John Marshall, your claims about Washington are heresy. I didn't even list quotes from David Ramsay (surgeon in the Cont. Army) who wrote a biography of Washington and demostrated beyond doubt Washington's Christian faith.

Gov. Morris? Gov. Morris was also a devout Christian by his own words. I have the quotes to prove it from the man himself.

You are not ready to debate this honestly, so just go away. I'me done with you.

1,185 posted on 01/14/2004 12:57:50 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: fly_so_free
Funny, when I first was watching Savage I also wondered if he was a liberal
1,186 posted on 01/14/2004 12:59:06 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: fly_so_free
Funny, when I first was watching Savage I also wondered if he was a liberal

BTW is your Step-Dad considering writing -in? -g-
1,187 posted on 01/14/2004 12:59:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: exmarine
How do you define a Christian? Can you show me one quote from George Washington where he says Jesus Christ was not only God but his personal Lord and Savior, please?
1,188 posted on 01/14/2004 1:02:04 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: B4Ranch
Glad it were you ;) The 1000th guy!
1,189 posted on 01/14/2004 1:03:32 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: MissAmericanPie
at least you will be able to present yourself with no blood on your hands because you remained silent, well liked, and comfortable

Bump! I could never stick my head under the covers and thank you MAP!

1,190 posted on 01/14/2004 1:09:26 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
The evidence form him and his contemporaries was overwhelming - he was a Christian. His upbringing from his mother was Christian, he conducted his life as a virtuous Christian, and all those who knew him said he was a Christian. You have no basis for questioning it other than your pride. His prayer book is further proof. He prayed to Jesus Christ. Just because he didn't make any explicit statements that Jesus was God is hardly sufficient justification for you to say he wasn't a Christian (and you did say it) in view of the evidence. His life and his conduct and his speeches are all prima facie evidence of a love of Jesus Christ. There is nothing about his life that would suggest he held any heterodox beliefs. His closest advisors were also devout Christians (Hamilton, Marshall, etc.). You have provided ZERO basis whatsoever for your assertion that: "But not a Christian by any means (especially his own admission)." . In fact, my quotes have refuted it, and you have tried to change your statement after I exposed its falsehood. Where is your proof for this statement - you have none! Next time, you should have evidence to back up your claims about founding fathers because I am armed to the teeth with quotes from almost all of them.

"Sir, Washington was a Deist."

Washington's own words prove this to be a lie. Deists don't pray and deists don't believe God interferes in the affairs of men. Now, go reread Washington's quote form his Inaugural address that I gave you. Then tell me he's a deist. This quote is refuted in spades by Washington's own words!

1,191 posted on 01/14/2004 1:15:13 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
"Yes, if we just put our trust in Bush and the U.S. govt., everything will be okay. Not. People had better start trusting God -the govt. can't save them from terrorists or anything else. 9/11 proved that. Our founding fathers trusted God to win the victory in the Revolution and gave God credit for the victory as can be seen in Washington's farewell address, Franklin's call to prayer speech at the Constituitonal convention, and the National Day of Fasting and Prayer that was proclaimed the day after the Bill of Rights was ratified."

Have you been properly authorized to maintain my political attitude?

.

/sarcasm/

1,192 posted on 01/14/2004 1:17:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JustPiper
"BTW Is your Step Dad considering writting -in"

I don't know, I think they usually get absentee ballots, not sure. I haven't heard him mention anyone else when I talk to him. He usually says something like: "the partys are all the same and the country is going to hell anyway, so who cares."

1,193 posted on 01/14/2004 1:20:44 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA-Vote a Democrat out of office)
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To: Texas_Dawg
If you want to press the point, I have four huge volumes at home full of evidneces of Washington's Christianity from David Ramsay, Washington Himself. I can overwhelm you with so much evidence, it will make your head spin. Furthermore, the public libraries contain 97 volumes of Washington's own writings on everything under the sun. I can probably pull hundreds of quotes from those.

And if you want to dispute the Christianity of 95% of the rest of the founding fathers, I can provide evidence for their faith as well. Unlike today, the Congress used to be chock full of Christians.

1,194 posted on 01/14/2004 1:21:39 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
Not one single quote about Jesus Christ as God and his Lord and Savior. I'm wondering, exmarine, do you even make that claim?
1,195 posted on 01/14/2004 1:23:05 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: JustPiper
You are a TRUE AMERICAN!!!
1,196 posted on 01/14/2004 1:29:26 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Texasforever
I never said I think George Bush should be impeached. There is no chance he will be. Sorry. But good luck with Howard dean. see how that works for you.
1,197 posted on 01/14/2004 1:38:07 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sfRummygirl
KPFA garbage. You know, the 94.1 ultra ultra liberal thing.

Luckily I have never heard that station. I can barely stand KGO anymore.

1,198 posted on 01/14/2004 1:42:18 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Not one single quote about Jesus Christ as God and his Lord and Savior. I'm wondering, exmarine, do you even make that claim?

Read my profile on this website and see. You know how to do that don't you?

Jesus Christ is the God-man. God manifest in human flesh (1Ti 3:16, John 1:1,12-14), the 2nd Person of the Holy Triune God, who lived the perfect life for me (that I can't live as a lawbreaker), and suffered and died as he paid the penalty for my sins that I would otherwise have to pay. My faith is in Jesus Christ as my Savior since I know I can never earn or deserve eternal life on my own (being a lawbreaker and all). I am His and He bought me at a great price, and my desire is to abide in Him and live a Holy life IN ALL I DO (INCLUDING MY VOTE) out of gratitude and love for Him who first loved me. Faith alone by grace alone in Christ alone.

Now, I don't think you want to continue a discussion with me about the faith of our founding fathers because I have numerous resources and you are at a disadvantage.

1,199 posted on 01/14/2004 1:46:29 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Since you want to press your point, I will force you to provide evidence for your assertion which I will repeat again:

"But not a Christian by any means (especially his own admission)."

Evidence - now. His own admission eh? Give me Washington's quote where he made such a statement!

1,200 posted on 01/14/2004 1:50:03 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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