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drstevej (Pope Piel I)
Posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:16 AM PST by drstevej
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At the noble suggestion of my Minister of Diplomacy, Orthodox Presbyterian, this thread serves as a place for Calvinists to register for inclusion in the of the Great Reformed Ping List. The official GRPL will be maintained by Orthodox Presbyterian with the assistance of our distinguished archivist, CC Woody.
The thread also welcomes members of the GRPL to post favorite grace oriented historical quotes from those who have swarmed before us.
Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.
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"These, these are the precious truths, which a scoffing world would fain rally or ridicule us out of. To produce this glorious change, this new creation, the glorious Jesus left his Father's bosom. For this he led a persecuted life; for this he died an ignominious and accursed death; for this he rose again; and for this he now sitteth at the right hand of his Father. All the precepts of his gospel, all his ordinances, all his providences, whether of an afflictive or prosperous nature, all divine revelation from the beginning to the end, all center in these two points, to show us how we are fallen, and to begin, early on, and complete a glorious and blessed change in our souls. This is an end worthy of the coming of so divine a personage. To deliver a multitude of souls of every nation, language and tongue, from so many moral evils, and to reinstate them in an incomparably more excellent condition than that from whence they are fallen, is an end worthy the shedding of such precious blood. What system of religion is there now, or was there ever exhibited to the world, any way to be compared to this?"
- George Whitefield, "The Potter and the Clay"
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:11:18 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: Jean Chauvin; Wrigley; RnMomof7; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; nobdysfool; Dr. Eckleburg; rdb3; jude24; ...
Great Reformed Ping List Announcement.
Spread the word.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:23:46 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej
Count this as my application to the Great Reformed Bump List.
Lord's Day 1 (Q & A 1 2)
Lord's Day 1
Q & A 1
Q. What is your only comfort
in life and in death?
A. That I am not my own,^1
but belong
body and soul,
in life and in death^2
to my faithful Savior Jesus Christ.^3
He has fully paid for all my sins with his precious blood,^4
and has set me free from the tyranny of the devil.^5
He also watches over me in such a way^6
that not a hair can fall from my head
without the will of my Father in heaven:^7
in fact, all things must work together for my salvation.^8
Because I belong to him,
Christ, by his Holy Spirit,
assures me of eternal life^9
and makes me wholeheartedly willing and ready
from now on to live for him.^10
^1 1 Cor. 6:19-20
^2 Rom. 14:7-9
^3 1 Cor. 3:23; Titus 2:14
^4 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 1 John 1:7-9; 2:2
^5 John 8:34-36; Heb. 2:14-15; 1 John 3:1-11
^6 John 6:39-40; 10:27-30; 2 Thess. 3:3; 1 Pet. 1:5
^7 Matt. 10:29-31; Luke 21:16-18
^8 Rom. 8:28
^9 Rom. 8:15-16; 2 Cor. 1:21-22; 5:5; Eph. 1:13-14
^10 Rom. 8:1-17
Q & A 2
Q. What must you know
to live and die in the joy of this comfort?
A. Three things:
first, how great my sin and misery are;^1
second, how I am set free from all my sins and misery;^2
third, how I am to thank God for such deliverance.^3
^1 Rom. 3:9-10; 1 John 1:10
^2 John 17:3; Acts 4:12; 10:43
^3 Matt. 5:16; Rom. 6:13; Eph. 5:8-10; 2 Tim. 2:15; 1 Pet. 2:9-10
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:24:53 AM PST
by
Wrigley
To: Gamecock; lockeliberty; RochesterFan
Great Reformed Ping List Announcement.
Exurge, Calvinisti,
et judica causam tuam...
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:30:59 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej
Sign me up!
"If any man ascribes anything of salvation, even the very least thing, to the free will of man, he knows nothing of grace, and he has not learned Jesus Christ rightly."
Luther
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:41:49 AM PST
by
Gamecock
(Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
To: drstevej
Count me in.
The Doctrine of God's Providence We believe that this good God,
after he created all things,
did not abandon them to chance or fortune
but leads and governs them
according to his holy will,
in such a way that nothing happens in this world
without his orderly arrangement.
Yet God is not the author of,
nor can he be charged with,
the sin that occurs.
For his power and goodness
are so great and incomprehensible
that he arranges and does his work very well and justly
even when the devils and wicked men act unjustly.
We do not wish to inquire
with undue curiosity
into what he does that surpasses human understanding
and is beyond our ability to comprehend.
But in all humility and reverence
we adore the just judgments of God,
which are hidden from us,
being content to be Christ's disciples,
so as to learn only what he shows us in his Word,
without going beyond those limits.
This doctrine gives us unspeakable comfort
since it teaches us
that nothing can happen to us by chance
but only by the arrangement of our gracious
heavenly Father.
He watches over us with fatherly care,
keeping all creatures under his control,
so that not one of the hairs on our heads
(for they are all numbered)
nor even a little bird
can fall to the ground20
without the will of our Father.
In this thought we rest,
knowing that he holds in check
the devils and all our enemies,
who cannot hurt us
without his permission and will.
For that reason we reject
the damnable error of the Epicureans,
who say that God involves himself in nothing
and leaves everything to chance.
20 Matt. 10:29-30
-from Article 13 of the Belgic Confession of 1561 written by Guido de Bres
Discussed here on F.R.
Jean
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:54:37 AM PST
by
Jean Chauvin
(Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
To: drstevej
Count me in!
John 6:36-38
But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. -Jesus, the First Cause and the first Calvinist
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posted on
12/10/2003 6:21:37 AM PST
by
jboot
(Faith is not a work; swarming, however, is.)
To: drstevej
I'm in:
"From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God's sovereignty in choosing whom He would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased. But I remember the time very well, when I seemed to be convinced, and fully satisfied, as to the sovereignty of God. I have often since, had not only a conviction, but a delightful conviction. The doctrine has very often appeared exceeding pleasant, bright, and sweet. Absolute sovereignty is what I love to ascribe to God. But my first conviction was not so."
-- Jonathan Edwards, Personal Narrative
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posted on
12/10/2003 6:38:06 AM PST
by
jude24
("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7
The official GRPL will be maintained by Orthodox Presbyterian with the assistance of our distinguished archivist, CC Woody. ~ drstevej
Well, I suppose that "archivist" does have a better connotation than "thief."
BTW, RnMomof7, has a ping list already that we should use to notify people. I have it at home so if she doesn't use is by then, I'll pull it out.
Woody.
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posted on
12/10/2003 6:49:13 AM PST
by
CCWoody
(Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
To: drstevej
"May the Lord grant that we may engage in contemplating the mysteries of His heavenly wisdom with increasing devotion, to His glory and our edification."
John Calvin
Prayer before his lectures
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posted on
12/10/2003 7:33:31 AM PST
by
AZhardliner
((PCA Pastor, Chaplain))
To: drstevej
The following was orinially applied to 20th century liberalism, but it can also be applied to present day evangelicalism:
"A God without wrath, brought men without sin, into a kingdom without judgment, through a Christ without a cross"
H. Richard Niebuhr
(Please, I know who he was, but his observation was 100% on target.)
Add me to the list, ping on!
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posted on
12/10/2003 7:42:14 AM PST
by
AZhardliner
((PCA Pastor, Chaplain))
To: drstevej
Ping me, steverino...
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:06:10 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(Athanasius contra mundum!)
To: drstevej
bump
To: Alex Murphy
Ahem....
Note Post #1 - Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.
Application pending.....
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posted on
12/10/2003 9:21:03 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej
I can think of two...
"These two world views [Christian theist vs naturalist, impersonal matter or energy shaped by impersonal chance] stand as totals in complete antithesis to each other in content and also in their natural results--including sociological and governmental results, and specifically including law.
It is not that these two world views are different only in how they understand the nature of reality and existence. They also inevitably produce totally different results. The operative word here is inevitably. It is not just that they happen to produce different results, but it is absolutely inevitable that they will bring forth different results."
--Francis A. Schaeffer, A Christian Manifesto, page 2.
"It would be easy to show that at our present rate of progress the kingdoms of this world never could become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ. Indeed, many in the Church are giving up the idea of it except on the occasion of the advent of Christ, which, as it chimes in with our own idleness, is likely to be a popular doctrine. I myself believe that King Jesus will reign, and the idols be utterly abolished; but I expect the same power which turned the world upside down once will still continue to do it. The Holy Ghost will never suffer the imputation to rest upon His holy name that He was not able to convert the world."
--Charles Haddon Spurgeon
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posted on
12/10/2003 10:08:29 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
(Athanasius contra mundum!)
To: drstevej
The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, I will be like the Most High.Anyone that calls himself Pope Piel must be an authority on the subject.:) Thou almost persuadeth me to be a Mormon....
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posted on
12/10/2003 10:25:03 AM PST
by
xJones
To: Alex Murphy
***I can think of two... ***
Cool, an additional quote for pennance. Nice touch.
-Pope Piel, Thread Pope
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posted on
12/10/2003 10:37:01 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej
From every corner, in every thread exalt the right of God to do whatsoever He pleaseth. Nah, sounds to much like a "work" to me.....
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posted on
12/10/2003 10:53:43 AM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(who the F is John Kerry?)
To: dubyaismypresident
We are looking for a token Jansenist for our list. Know any?
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:06:46 AM PST
by
drstevej
To: xJones
***Thou almost persuadeth me to be a Mormon....***
Take a Rolaids and that bosom flare up will be all gone.
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:08:13 AM PST
by
drstevej
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