Posted on 10/20/2003 4:53:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 10/20/2003 8:39:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I happen to believe that Bill and Hillary Clinton were the worst presidents in our nation's history. Corruption, government abuse, treason and daily scandal were the norm under their rule. Bill is a useful idiot who can't keep his mouth shut or his zipper up and Hillary is an America hating godless communist power monger. These are my personal opinions.
Bill and Hillary Clinton and their minions still wield a tremendous amount of power and influence over the Democrat Party, the socialist movement and the national press. Their goals are to completely eliminate our rights to free speech, free religion, freedom to keep and bear arms, etc., and these are just for starters.
I believe the overall goal of their movement is to completely do away with the U.S. Constitution and in its place, install socialist/totalitarian rule over America. Furthermore, I believe they wish to do away with our national sovereignty altogether and subject America to domination by the U.N. and other world bodies.
Now you may call me a nutcase if you wish, but that's the way I see it. I believe that in the last century, FDR, LBJ, RMN, Carter, Clinton, et al, successfully introduced many socialist programs into our government and our way of life and with the help of the media and atheist institutions like the ACLU began systematically destroying the fabric of our society. In the process, they've moved both of our major political parties way over to the left. They (the liberals/marxists/socialists) have almost completely taken over all of our government institutions and agencies, the judiciary, the press, the Universities, our education systems, our charities, even our churches.
I believe that as long as Bill and Hillary Clinton and their like minded socialist minions have any influence or power over the government or either of the two major political parties, our nation and all of our freedoms are in extreme danger.
Free Republic was created in 1996 as a place where liberty-minded individuals could gather and share the news and discuss the Clinton scandals and other government abuses. I had hoped that the truth of the Clinton corruption would come out in time to prevent his re-election in 1996. Didn't happen. So we moved on. If we couldn't block his re-election, well, perhaps we could help with his impeachment. He was impeached, but we could not remove him.
So next, we decide to do all in our power to ensure that his second in command does not get to the Whitehouse. Even though GWB was not my first choice, once he won the Republican nomination, most of us rallied behind him and fought like the dickens to get him elected. Then we fought again to block the attempted Gore coup d'etat. Our Free Republic chapters mobilized all across the nation and there were thousands of rallies and protests in hundreds of cities objecting loudly to Gore's attempted takeover.
Then we all thanked God when Bush was finally declared the winner and off to Washington we went to celebrate at the Free Republic George W. Bush Inaugural Ball (I).
Then we all thank God again when after the cowardly attack on our nation by a gang of murderous international terrorists we realize how close we were to complete collapse and national destruction had the socialist U.N. loving Al Gore been in charge. Thank God for President Bush!
And I haven't even mentioned how evil I truly believe the official Democrat Party platform is. Here's a partial laundry list of what the Democrat Party supports and promotes: abortion; homosexuality; feminaziism; environmentalism; government control over every aspect of our lives and society; socialized health care; disarmament of the American people; subjugation of the U.S. to the U.N.; the complete elimination of our national sovereignty; complete destruction of our basic traditional family unit; loss of personal freedoms and individual liberty. In other words, complete destruction of our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our American way of life.
I came to the conclusion several years ago that there is no way this republic can survive if we allow the Democrat Party to maintain control over our government and other institutions. If America is to survive as we know it, Bill and Hillary Clinton and all the current democrat/socialist power mongers who share their philosophy and visions for a socialist America and socialist world must be soundly rejected and defeated at the polls.
And not just at the presidential level. They must be rejected and removed from both houses of Congress and from our State houses and local legislatures. For example, if we cannot remove them from the Senate, then there is no hope for reestablishing a judiciary built on the original intent of the Constitution and the rule-of-law. The liberals and socialists must be rooted out of our congress and our judiciary. Our free republic, our freedom and even liberty itself depends on it.
Just my humble opinion and why I act the way I do. I see the Democrat Party as domestic enemy number one of the Constitution and therefor it is my sworn enemy. And, in my eyes, anyone who helps to elect members of the Democrat party are aiding and abetting the enemy.
Futhermore, I believe wholeheartedly in the original intent of our Founding Fathers and in the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
God gave us these unalienable rights and they can never be taken from us by man or government. And we are ALL to be treated justly and equally under the law.
"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
Yes, the Founders established a government and set forth the plan for us to govern ourselves.
"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
The government has become destructive to these ends. One of the main purposes of our government is to defend, preserve and protect our liberty. It has been doing just the opposite. Therefore, it is our right and duty to alter or abolish it. I propose doing so by destroying enemy number one of the Constitution, the corrupt socialist Democrat Party.
Didn't do what? Vote for McClintock, or help get Bustamecha in?
I'm a single issue voter. 2A.
Your fatal error here is confusing a True Conservative with a Liberal. Speaking for myself, I never worried about Reagan. I knew where his heart was even if he had to compromise with the other side of the aisle. Can't say the same about Bush.
But, hey, it's fun to take quotations out of context and attach it to your favorite Liberal masquerading as a Conservative. As IF there is anything remotely similar to a man that stood squarely for “limited” government and One that sees Unlimited possibilities for “unlimited” government.
I was so sorry to miss the Inaugural celebration and if we have a next one may I suggest Honolulu, Hawaii. We could have a wonderful time at the Hale Koa Ballroom.
Mahalo, Jim and may God's Peace Be With You.
Nope. It suits me just fine. How about you?
And I didn't say it ugly either, GEEZ! I didn't get the joke, sorry, I am a blonde okay? I thought I was testy lately!
My right to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Jesus in public.
What piece of legislation, which was promulgated by the Clinton administration, and passed by Congress, do you believe trashed the Constitution?
Anything infringing on gun ownership. Read the second ammendment then look around, and weep.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe President Bush had, as one plank of his 2000 election platform, a plan to "privatize" a (minute) part of Social Security. I still hope the GOP will eventually get this through, even though the results would be akin to plugging a crack in a dam with silly putty.
Regarding Medicare, there's no good reason for the Republicans to support expanding entitlements in the form of a new taxpayer-subsidized prescription drug plan. They seem intent on doing so, however, despite the fact that Medicare expenditures account for 19% of the federal budget and have increased $10 billion between 2001 and 2002 (Source, pp. 24 & 25)
According to Social Security: A Primer (2001):
"[Medicare and Medicaid], together with Social Security, already account for nearly half of all federal spending, excluding interest payments on federal debt. If the programs are not changed, by 2030 they could consume two-thirds of the federal budget."Federal spending on education is also ballooning. The House Education and the Workforce Committee has reported that:
"Despite the limited resources available, the FY 2003 Budget provides a larger increase for the Education Department (7 percent) than for any other domestic Cabinet agency. Federal education spending has increased by 132 percent from FY 1996 (the first fiscal year under a Republican majority in Congress) to FY 2003.And to what effect? States are now resorting to "adjusting test scores this year to give some schools a better chance of meeting formidable federal student achievement standards" (Source).
Given this data, and your astute observation that many people are on the receiving end of such benefits and will not gladly relinquish them, I tend to empathize with your assessment that "the only way for government to shrink under those realities is for the money to finally run out." I believe it will come down to that someday.
In the meantime, the GOP could be working at cutting taxes *and* trying to curtail the rate at which federal spending is growing. I don't think that's too much to expect from a political party that appears to pride itself on its conservatism.
If the voters of this nation agreed with all of your good points then Ron Paul would be president today. The simple reality isn't that the public doesn't understand the "conservative" rationale; they understand it they just are not buying it. That is why even Reagan raised taxes, never touched social security, never eliminated the Department of Education or any other agency and left the size of government larger than found it. The GOP does not just place people in office, WE elect them. WE elect “RINOS”. If the GOP purges the party of "RINOS" then the GOP is no longer a viable political party.
If we are to actually achieve what Jim laid out in this post the focus has to be how to turn the mushy middle of the voters, those that actually decide the elections, into conservatives. That will take care of the "RINO" problem. It is folly to think that any congressional candidate in any of the blue states will not be a "RINO" but without a sizable congressional delegation from some of those states a governing majority cannot be achieved. Once the voters in the blue states become right of center wala’ no more “RINOS”.
Well said, and I'm with you all the way, Jim.
I have only one concern...well, observation, really. I feel that you take far too much guff from certain posters.
Here's a partial laundry list of what the Democrat Party supports and promotes: abortion; homosexuality; feminaziism; environmentalism; government control over every aspect of our lives and society; socialized health care; disarmament of the American people; subjugation of the U.S. to the U.N.; the complete elimination of our national sovereignty; complete destruction of our basic traditional family unit; loss of personal freedoms and individual liberty. In other words, complete destruction of our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our American way of life
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