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Militia member 'filled with rage,' plotted ambush
The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Friday, October 17, 2003 | Ed White

Posted on 10/17/2003 10:29:17 AM PDT by FourPeas

Militia member 'filled with rage,' plotted ambush

Friday, October 17, 2003

By Ed White
The Grand Rapids Press


It was a rural arsenal fit for war.

After the peaceful arrest of a Cadillac-area man, authorities who searched his 40-acre compound discovered a stunning collection of firepower, including an anti-aircraft gun capable of firing 550 rounds per minute up to four miles away.

A van and a Jeep Cherokee, described by the suspect as his "war wagons," had machine guns inside, with one "locked, loaded and ready to go," Assistant U.S. Attorney Lloyd Meyer said.

Agents found an underground bunker, thousands of rounds of ammunition, hundreds of pounds of gunpowder and manuals on guerrilla warfare, "booby traps" and explosives.

There were chilling pictures of President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld with the cross-hairs of a high-

see MILITIA, A4

powered rifle scope drawn over them, Meyer said.

Norman Somerville, 43, was arrested last week on federal gun and drug charges as he shopped at Home Depot in Cadillac. Authorities then spent the weekend combing his property in Wexford County's Antioch Township, about 20 miles northwest of Cadillac.

Details of the search were disclosed in a court document filed Thursday in federal court in Grand Rapids, four days before a judge will decide whether Somerville should remain in jail while his case is pending.

Somerville was "filled with rage and intended to ambush people, mowing them down in a hail of machine-gun bullets," Meyer said, quoting informants. He belongs to a "self-styled radical militia unit" whose members are upset over the death of Scott Woodring, the prosecutor said.

Woodring was the Newaygo County man fatally shot by state police during the summer, days after a trooper died while trying to serve him with an arrest warrant.

State police were told in September that Somerville wanted to cause a car accident, then "ambush and kill" any responding officers with a machine gun mounted in his Jeep, Meyer wrote in the court document.

An unidentified source, described as one of Somerville's "trusted associates," feared he had become "mentally unbalanced and would kill an innocent person or be killed," Meyer said.

Somerville may face additional charges linked to the search of his property, although Meyer declined to elaborate.

Two years ago, Somerville moved to Wexford County from elsewhere in northern Michigan. He served in the Army from 1978 to 1984 and was trained as an intelligence analyst assigned to the elite Special Forces.

During a brief court appearance last week in Grand Rapids, Somerville said: "The people will have their day. ... There's a quiet civil war going on in the country."

In Antioch Township, five miles outside Mesick, neighbors said he is not the type to share a cup of sugar.

"We told our kids to stay off his property. There was gunfire a lot," said Lynda Sherburne, a former township clerk who lives nearby. "Who knows where the stray bullets are going.

"He got angry very easily. No contact with him was the best contact."

Sherburne said her nephew's house shook as state and federal authorities detonated explosives found on Somerville's property.

"I don't think anyone realized he was stockpiling back there," she said.



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To: dcwusmc
Government, being the "growth industry" it is, DOES have a VESTED, but not valid, interest in keeping its citizenry disarmed.
PERHAPS you can illuminate this on a WIDER scope, like, say, with South LA in mind ...

IOW, this has never been fully explored:

Do gang-bangers get equal access to fire power, weapons up to and including 'tactical nukes' like those in fly-over country OR are such weapons only for the conservatives in our society.

Remember, OPEN the door to one you must OPEN THE DOOR FOR ALL.

201 posted on 10/18/2003 11:00:20 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: MineralMan
"But, if you have an argument in favor of the man, please let's hear it."

Do you have personal knowledge of this man or are you basing your opinion on the govs description of him?

When the gov gers through busting all the "wackos", no one will have guns.
202 posted on 10/18/2003 11:01:50 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: FourPeas
The Reno Feds had every chance to do this at Waco:

"Norman Somerville, 43 David Koresh, was arrested last week on federal gun and drug charges as he shopped at Home Depot in Cadillac in Waco.

Authorities then spent the weekend combing his property in Wexford County's Antioch Township, about 20 miles northwest of Cadillac and interviewing the women and children living there "

203 posted on 10/18/2003 11:05:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: quidnunc; VoiceOfBruck
They have something they call the Liberty Net on SW sideband
3950 KHz in the 80 Meter Amateur band ...

... 'nutnet.com' can also be found on the web at:

www.3950.net

3950 Can Be Funny

WA9KJI is one of the worst violators of the amateur regulations of all time - but his antics are so insane (including parading in public wearing underwear on his head) that it must be admitted that he is unintentionally funny at times, and this cartoonist has captured his essential spirit

While we're on the subject of the unintentionally amusing, this web site by one of the jammers, WB0CXJ, should give you quite a chuckle, as should this one, also by a jammer, AA5HQ, whose modus operandi is to make unidentified, abusive, and vulgar comments over legitimate 3950 users while inebriated.

Timeline: W9ART Jams - Calls for Murder - Gets Warning - Keeps Jamming

Even after receiving a warning letter from Riley Hollingsworth, W9ART continues his intentional interference on 3950 kHz!


204 posted on 10/18/2003 11:06:30 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: Rebelbase
IIRC, the Feds only had a search warrant, not an arrest warrant.

In this case, there was probable cause for an arrest warrant (including this jackass saying on ham radio that he intended to kill President Bush).
205 posted on 10/18/2003 11:08:38 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
Implied in the right to keep and bear arms is the right to USE those arms.

Actually not. The use of arms is subject to all sorts of laws and rightly so. They are dangerous, and must be used in a responsible manner. Irresponsible use is covered under such as "reckless endangerment", assault with a deadly weapon, murder, and so forth. Nuclear devices are different in degree, but not really in kind, in this regard. You have to have a *really* big range to safely test your nukes, and even then there are environmental problems..but then again there is lead pollution getting into the water table in the case of conventional guns and ranges. Again, difference in degree but not in kind.

Now, do I want a nuke, or would I have a clue how to procure one? Heck no. I wish the darn things weren't even physically possible. But E=MC2 is "the law" and it can't be put back in the bottle. Although one can probably argue that the existance of nukes prevented World Wars III, which judging by WW-II verses WW-I, would have been a real pisser, even absent nukes.

206 posted on 10/18/2003 11:22:30 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: _Jim
I get an HTTP 500 error when I click your link...
207 posted on 10/18/2003 11:22:55 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
Well ... it loads with Opera 7.01 and Netscape 4.78.

And it responds to pings:

C:\WINDOWS>ping www.3950.net

Pinging www.3950.net [66.150.161.134] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.150.161.134: bytes=32 time=1760ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.150.161.134: bytes=32 time=1208ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.150.161.134: bytes=32 time=204ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.150.161.134: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=246

Ping statistics for 66.150.161.134:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 200ms, Maximum = 1760ms, Average = 843ms

C:\WINDOWS>
208 posted on 10/18/2003 11:32:21 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
One of the reasons I stopped listening to Liberty Net was that the jamming made it difficult since I only have a scanner with an attached telescoping antenna.
209 posted on 10/18/2003 11:39:10 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: FourPeas
Interesting how easily a 40-acre farm morphs into a "40-acre compound".
210 posted on 10/18/2003 11:47:09 AM PDT by Redcloak (I was going to write something clever here.)
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To: _Jim
I have NO problem opening the door to ALL being armed. As it stands now, ONLY the criminals and thugs on both sides of the law are "permitted" to be armed. The average schmoe in the middle is disarmed and prey to both camps of armed thugs. Why not even it out? After all, the old west proved beyond question (Hollyweird not withstanding) that "an ARMED society is a POLITE (and law-abiding) society." But, IIRC, you are mostly on the side of the gun-grabbers.
211 posted on 10/18/2003 11:57:30 AM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: Poohbah
IIRC, the Feds only had a search warrant, not an arrest warrant.

You recall incorrectly. from here, where you can also read the warrent application, which like this one apparently did, contained lots of information on perfectly legal practices and possessions.

Federal arrest warrant for VWH case number W93-17m (for Vernon Wayne Howell aka David Koresh) was issued in believe that he was in unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device in violation of 26 USC.

Federal Search Warrant Case Number W93-15M (for Mount Carmel Center) was issued on the probable cause to believe that unregistered machineguns and destructive devices were being concealed in violation of both 18 and 26 USC.

If you don't like the credibility of this site, check out this law journal article by Kopel and Blackman, which also indicates that both an arrest and a search warrant issued:

212 posted on 10/18/2003 12:12:31 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
You referenced this thread--but in a way that made sure the link didn't work.

Second, if that's the case, I stand corrected. The reports from the time of the incident mentioned the search warrant and didn't mention the arrest warrant.
213 posted on 10/18/2003 12:15:35 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: quidnunc
From that Associated Press story ealier:
Also found were videos with titles such as "America: Wakeup or Waco" and "9/11, the Road to Tyranny."
I know for a fact that the second video "9/11, the Road to Tyranny" is an Alex Jones production
214 posted on 10/18/2003 12:27:36 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: dcwusmc
As it stands now, ONLY the criminals and thugs on both sides of the law are "permitted" to be armed.
Is this just an attempt to utilize hyperbole in an argument - or do you not know how wrong you are?

'Concealed-carry' is not the law in a number of states (including mine) rendering your above argument pretty foolish ...

Also, you're revealing yet more ignorance on your 'IIRC' about my stance on such issues.

Better research next time will save you this kind of embarassment.

215 posted on 10/18/2003 12:32:50 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Errata:

Concealed-carry' is not the law in a number of states ... ==>

Concealed-carry' is *now* the law in a number of states ...

216 posted on 10/18/2003 12:34:06 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: quidnunc
One of the reasons I stopped listening to Liberty Net ... since I only have a scanner with an attached telescoping antenna.
A half-wave dipole (120') fed in the center and thrown up on the roof in a zig-zag pattern might do you well (assuing it's not a conductive roof like 'tin' roof that is) and 'fed' with a piece of CATV coax (RG-59) would boost signals a lot (and work on other bands too).

Speaking of 'other bands' - I just ran across this - an interesting bit of a read -

We Want the Airwaves
Radio on the fringes

BY DAVE FISHER
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED IN BROKEN PENCIL MAGAZINE, SPRING 1999

THE SLEEPY LOGGING TOWN of Merritt, British Columbia might not seem like the place for a free radio movement, but for most of last year that's exactly what it was.

Home to the unlicenced Merritt Free Cast Radio (MFCR), the town was one of the few in Canada lucky enough to receive a radio station operated by somebody who cares about the medium. Featuring a schedule of public programming and music ignored by the rest of Canada's official radio community, MFCR was a station that dared to be different, and proof that great radio appears in the most unlikely of places -- out on the fringes of the dial.

Radio, you understand, has become a tired and banal medium. In theory it has limitless appeal to the imagination and is the unrivalled source for broadcasting recorded music. But the reality is too often a dismal failure. Even more alarming for it's future is that young people don't seem to care. For most of their lives, they've been treated with contempt by the corporate radio industry. Programming content is too often generated by computers and marketing techniques designed on Madison Avenue. The blame for the demise is varied -- certainly new media such as cable television and the internet are instrumental -- but a larger factor is the corporate mentality that cares for nothing except the bottom line.

In a respect, it's been that way since it's origins, with pioneers KDKA in Pittsburgh and WBZ in Boston both being owned-and-operated at Westinghouse Electric Company plants in the 1920s. Even the call letters of early stations told corporate stories: Chicago's WLS (World's Largest Store) was owned by Sears, and WGN (World's Greatest Newspaper) was the property of The Chicago Tribune. The Rogers' empire in Canada started with Toronto's CFRB -- Canada's First Rogers Broadcasting.

...

PIRATE RADIO

Pirate radio is defined as any unlicenced radio operation that broadcasts for the purpose of an audience. Despite the decline in popularity of official radio, pirate radio is more active in North America today than at any time in the medium's history. Their forerunners are the 1960s offshore pirates in Britain, such as Radio Caroline and Radio London. Those stations were so popular that the British government was forced to shut them down with the Marine Broadcasting Offences Act of 1967.

...

SHORT WAVE RADIO

When people think about radio, it's primarily in terms of the AM and FM dials found on their stereos and ghetto-blasters. This mind-set is depressingly narrow, but it's a perception that most of us are predisposed.

The term "short wave" refers to a wide section of radio frequency covering the spectrum immediately beyond the AM band. It runs from 1711 kHz all the way up to 30,000 kHz. (The AM band, also known as medium wave, runs a comparatively small 520-1710 kHz.) The advantage of short wave radio is that its higher frequencies allow for transmissions over great distances, often to the other side of the planet.

MORE: home.golden.net/~tekapo/words/wewant.html
217 posted on 10/18/2003 12:55:15 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
It is only marginally close to hyperbole... ask DiFi and UpChuck Schumer. And I would not be so proud of having to ask government "permission" to exercise a RIGHT granted by GOD. All that does is give them a list of who is KNOWN to own weapons when the crackdown comes. You're actually OK with this?

The ONLY TIME government has any business whatsoever knowing who has what weapon is when that government has ISSUED that weapon to someone. Otherwise, for obvious reasons, it is NEVER good for ANY level of government to have such knowledge. In the cases of ACTUAL (as opposed to potential) misuse of a weapon, government in a FREE society has the authority to apprehend and prosecute the misuser, presuming he survives an encounter with an armed citizen. That is ALL the authority government has. READ the Constitution for the United States with your mind open to what the Founders actually MEANT and not what a socialistically-inclined modern FedGov WANT it to mean.
218 posted on 10/18/2003 12:56:46 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
a RIGHT granted by GOD.

What kind of Christian are you WHEN the Bible speaks about God in relation to 'governing authoraties' in this manner (Romans 13, verses 1 - 4):

1. Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

2. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

3. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same;

4. for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practises evil.

Methinks you are an anarchist whose heart is set upon his *own* desires ...

219 posted on 10/18/2003 1:10:31 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: MineralMan
but the First Amendment doesn't really apply here on FR, you see.

You just proved to me that you haven't a clue what the 1st Amendment means. That makes two amendments you don't understand.

220 posted on 10/18/2003 1:16:34 PM PDT by Gumption
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