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Mark Steyn: Blunkett's ban will fan the flames
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^
| 07/13/04
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 07/12/2004 4:10:20 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Congressman Billybob
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:17:38 PM PDT
by
pushforbush
("How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy,)
To: Dog Gone
Since Steyn is a Jew, I suppose no fatwa is needed, given he is already covered by the daily calls for extermination of the Jews coming from the muslim world.
To: Pokey78
Churchill: "
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog..."
Seems I'm not the first one to have made the comparison between the Islamic mind and the mind of a rabid dog. (Hydrophobia = Rabies, in the modern parlance) Sir Winston made the realization 100 years before me. Go figure.
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:34:49 PM PDT
by
FierceDraka
("Party Before Country" - The New Motto of the Democratic Party)
To: Pokey78
Whenever I read some story about some stupid liberal law like the one steyn is referencing I become more and more convinced that under every leftist is a self loathing idiot on a suicide mission.
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:40:53 PM PDT
by
Prysson
To: thucydides
Since Steyn is a Jew, I suppose no fatwa is needed, given he is already covered by the daily calls for extermination of the Jews coming from the muslim world. We are all Jews now.
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:47:48 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
To: mykdsmom
It never ceases to amaze me how the liberals support Islam without question. It is by far the least tolerant of any religion.
This is a serious question and an important one. I'd suggest you listen closely to what leftists say about terrorism and its causes...
The Left views Islamism as primarily a Leftist, anti-colonial movement merely cloaked in religious rhetoric. They see the Islamists as potential allies - in the same vein as Che or Ho Chi Minh.
How they come to this conclusion is astounding. While previous "anti-colonial" movements invariable at least gave lip service to the political views of the Western Left, Islam and Islamism do no such thing.
Listen to Osama and co and they want to drag the world back to the 10th century and give its people the choice of the Koran or the sword. Leftists hear this and find the real cause of Islamist terror to be income inequality, poverty, or Christianity, and then conjecture their real goals to be egalitarianism, religious pluralism, environmentalism, or "social justice". Which just goes to show that in the Leftist mind reality loses to comforting fiction every time...
And let us be clear - Islamists hates Western Leftism even more then American conservatism. In their dream future, we Christians and conservatives will face dhimmitude - slavery - while homosexuals, atheists, avante guard "artists", and the rest will face stoning, beheading, and even worse.
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:52:45 PM PDT
by
swilhelm73
(We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France. -Duke Wellington)
To: mykdsmom
The liberals hope to use Islam as a cudgel against Christians while at the same time using its influence as the excuse in which they take despotic power over us in America.
They hope to be able to control and spin the Muslim onslaught as a dynamic force with which they keep the electorate in line.
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posted on
07/12/2004 6:56:39 PM PDT
by
mdmathis6
(The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
To: Pokey78
Steyn somehow found the only way possible to improve on his own magnificent writing: by quoting Winston Churchill.
What a pleasure to read!
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posted on
07/12/2004 7:23:37 PM PDT
by
irv
To: Mr Ramsbotham
We are all Jews now. You said it, brother.
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posted on
07/12/2004 7:58:24 PM PDT
by
Snake65
(Osama Bin Decomposing)
To: Pokey78
The issue is immigration, not Blunkett's law. Law or no law, mass Muslim immigration will destroy Britain, and scratchings on pieces of paper won't make the least bit of difference.
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posted on
07/12/2004 8:08:09 PM PDT
by
jordan8
To: Pokey78
Thanks for ANOTHER unexcerpted ping, Pokey!
Without Blunkett's law, there'll be the odd crusty type from the shires huffing on BBC phone-ins that if Muslim women think it's insulting to be made to remove their hejab for ID cards, they should bloody well have thought about that before moving to Britain.
OK, enough with this silliness, but it's the first thing that popped into my head....
From my profile page:
From Mark Steyn: The other day, Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbons Publica magazine that a group of London Islamists are ready to launch a big operation on British soil.
We dont make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents, he said, clarifying the ground rules. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value.
The cleric added he expected to see the banner of Islam flying in Downing Street. I believe one day that is going to happen. Because this is my country, I like living here, he said. If they believe in democracy, who are they afraid of? Let Omar Bakri benefit from democracy!
Any questions?
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posted on
07/13/2004 12:14:22 AM PDT
by
Watery Tart
("I'd rather have my husband alive than that money." Teresa Kerry-Heinz)
To: Pokey78
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posted on
07/13/2004 3:11:15 AM PDT
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: Pokey78
I am shocked his articles aren't banned yet in Canada and the UK.
Anyone want to guess on that date?
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posted on
07/13/2004 3:15:56 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(wketchup.com)
To: Pokey78
So wise for one so young.
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posted on
07/13/2004 3:17:10 AM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: metesky
Amazing that at the time, he was considered a liberal!!
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:09:37 AM PDT
by
AngloSaxon
(successful)
To: Pokey78
As for "Our Children Our Future", when it comes to children, the imam certainly has the future all mapped out: as he has said, "Israelis might have nuclear bombs but we have the children bomb and these human bombs must continue until liberation."
A clearer statement of Islamofascist intentions I have not seen. Thanks Pokey.
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:20:19 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: AngloSaxon
Amazing that at the time, he was considered a liberal!! Actually at the time Churchill was a Tory. He switched to the Liberal Party after entering Parliament a few years later, then switched back in (I think) the early 1920s. When asked what conclusions people should draw from the fact that he had switched paties twice Churchill said:
Anyone can rat. To rat and then re-rat takes talent.
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:25:04 AM PDT
by
Pilsner
To: Pokey78
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Words even truer today.
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:25:14 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: ConservativeConvert
Winston Churchill...... he stated so just above the quote.
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:26:31 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: thucydides
Uh.... Mark Steyn is not Jewish.
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posted on
07/13/2004 5:29:24 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
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