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The Guild 1-30-2003 Whiney Enviroweenies
MSNBC ^ | 1-30-2003

Posted on 01/30/2003 3:24:26 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

National Environmental Trust

Philip Clapp, president:
“This is the first time President Bush has mentioned the environment in a State of the Union, and the reason is simple: his poll numbers with the swing voters he needs in 2004 — women, independents and suburban voters — are dropping. This was window-dressing pure and simple.

“After two years of rolling back environmental protections, he has discovered there’s a cost. “President Bush’s environmental promises always come with a “Buyer Beware” sign. “His air pollution plan actually allows power plants to pollute more, for a decade longer, than the current Clean Air Act allows. “His forest plan allows timber companies to cut down 3,000 truckloads a year of the great trees in the Sequoia National Monument. [snip]

Sierra Club

Daniel Becker, global warming and energy program director:
“Fuel cells are an important part of a clean energy future, but the president’s rhetoric does not match the reality. President Bush’s FreedomCAR program is built on the flawed Partnership for A New Generation of Vehicles, which squandered billions of taxpayer dollars in research and development but did not bring a single hybrid vehicle to the marketplace. Similarly, the FreedomCAR program funnels millions to Detroit without requiring that they produce a single fuel cell vehicle for the public to purchase.

“The auto industry is using the promise of future fuel cells as a shield against using existing technology to dramatically cut our oil dependence, and pollution, today. This technology is sitting on the shelf while Detroit dithers. Honda and Toyota are producing hybrid vehicles today, the big three are not. Honda has stated that it is using the electric motor of its hybrid as the basis for the fuel cell cars which it is beginning to produce. Meanwhile, FreedomCAR is re-inventing the wheel. Refusing to demand that the Big Three use modern, gas-saving technology is irresponsible. [snip]

Natural Resources Defense Council

David Hawkins, climate director:
It’s surprising how brazen the president is being at taking what are rollbacks and delays and claiming that they are initiatives. Both of the activities (Clear Skies and Healthy Forests) that he featured in his statement last night are prime examples of that.”

“Having a program to accelerate the use of hydrogen fuels is a good idea but the president talked of a car that would be available in 16 years. We need something to deal with the next 16 years ... such as improving the fuel efficiency standards.” [snip]

It goes without saying if clintoon had proposed all this the enviroweenies would have made him a hero.


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To: mountaineer
Please don't hold your breath waiting for it, we'd miss you so! :-)
101 posted on 01/31/2003 6:48:17 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
"[President Bush] is from West Texas. When you see a rattlesnake on a trail, you pull out that gun, and you go boom, bam. You do not assemble a coalition to discuss the rattlesnake" - Sam Donaldson on "Hardball with Chris Matthews" explaining the president's willingness to go it alone in Iraq. Page Six

Or, in x42's case, take a poll on the subject.

102 posted on 01/31/2003 6:51:16 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
The windmill story calls to mind the liberal mindset I encountered when I lived in LaLaLand...California...worse, Los Angeles.

Here's a state (maybe just one city--L.A.) which consumes 10 times the fuel of all the other western states combined. But they go bonkers if anyone suggests drilling off their coast or exploring for oil in the Sierras.

I used to say: "What? You think Tulsa should pump our oil for us?!".

They just didn't get it.
103 posted on 01/31/2003 6:53:01 AM PST by Timeout
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To: BigWaveBetty

The Clintons & their friends Walter & Betty Cronkite and the Cronkite's grandson, Walter IV.
104 posted on 01/31/2003 6:58:41 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
RE: windmills in view of the Hyannis compound on Cape Cod and Cronkite's place on Martha's Vineyard:

Hahahahahhahahahahaha. Ted Kennedy's against this energy saving technology when it's in his backyard, as is Walter-I-Never-Met-A-Communist-I-Didn't-Like, as well as Robert Kennedy, Jr. who heads an environmental group.

I guess it's ok for these windbags to take away my SUV as long as they can keep their water views. Hypocrits!
105 posted on 01/31/2003 7:22:34 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: BigWaveBetty
Walter's not mentioned in that story because that's right off the Hamptons, on Long Island.

Walter's & Ted Kennedy's view-interrupting wind farm will be off Cape Cod/Martha's Vineyard. Apparently, they just don't want to be farmers!
106 posted on 01/31/2003 7:26:22 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: Timeout
They just didn't get it

There's no hope for those self-centered scum. Thank goodness you got out of there!

In case anybody missed it, machinations from billyboy's best hand holding buddy:

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa--Former President Nelson Mandela called President Bush arrogant and shortsighted and implied he is racist for ignoring the United Nations in his zeal to attack Iraq.

''One power, with a president who has no foresight and cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust,'' Mandela said Thursday.

He also criticized Iraq for not cooperating fully with the weapons inspectors and said South Africa would support any action against Iraq that was supported by the UN.

''Why is the United States behaving so arrogantly?'' he asked. ''All that [Bush] wants is Iraqi oil.''

He accused Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair of undermining the UN and Secretary-General Kofi Annan, who is from Ghana.

''Is it because the secretary-general of the United Nations is now a black man? They never did that when secretary-generals were white."Link

107 posted on 01/31/2003 7:27:06 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Here's a nice counterpoint to that old Marxist, Mandela:

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi told U.S. President George W. Bush during a meeting in Washington Thursday that Italy was among his closest allies in the Iraqi crisis and that he was there "to help President Bush convince everybody that only by standing united - the EU, the United States and Russia - we will be able to force Saddam Hussein see as his only option giving up weapons of mass destruction."

Berlusconi mentioned the fear that after the Sept. 11 attacks, terror groups might be planning another horrible assault with weapons of mass destruction that Iraq is known to possess and has not yet destroyed.

Berlusconi also said a war against Iraq was "the last option." He stressed that the "decision on peace that everyone wants is in Saddam Hussein's hands." full story, IHT

108 posted on 01/31/2003 7:33:08 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Endeavor
Ohhhhh, thanks for the correction.

Ted doesn't want to be a farmer because overalls make his butt look big... er, uh... bigger.

That or he might be mistaken for a hog.

109 posted on 01/31/2003 7:36:33 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Your next trip to Europe should be to Italy.

Your recent thread about writing to Jack Chirac concerning his stance on war with Iraq inspired an idea to start a thank you letter writing campaign to those countries who signed up with us.

Would you like to do a thread for the Guild on that? You probably know where all the good links to get email addys and such.

110 posted on 01/31/2003 7:44:04 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Good idea - let's keep this thread going a while, but I'll start the next one with that theme (I'm at work now, but maybe can get to it by this p.m.)
111 posted on 01/31/2003 7:49:49 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Great, whenever you can get to it, thanks! We'll keep this one going until you can make yours. Work? Oh yeah, I should be doing some of that.

An illustration used by HSBC USA for the bank's holiday card is seen in this undated handout photo. The original sketch for the card, illustrated by fifth-grader Gregory Paladino, of Buffalo, N.Y., showed a white dove hovering over a snow-covered village. When the card was printed, a steeple and a cross were removed from a church, making it look like the other houses in the scene. HSBC apologized this week for removing the church steeple from the contest-winning sketch, which won $1,000 for Paladino's Roman Catholic school, Our Mother of Sorrows Elementary in the Rochester suburb of Greece. (AP Photos/Gregory Paladino, Courtesy of HSBC USA)

Unfreakinbelievable! Anybody know what HSBC stands for?
Gregory Paladino is a wonderful artist! It must have broken his heart to have his art mutilated like that. Would a picture of the Madonna with elephant feces thrown at her remained untouched?

112 posted on 01/31/2003 8:05:14 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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"Get your money for nothin' and your chicks for free..."

Billy Baldwin is finalizing a deal to lead the ensemble cast of 'EDNY,' an NBC drama pilot about a team of U.S. attorneys. The project was one of two cast-contingent pilot orders duking it out for the sixth hour-long pilot slot on NBC's development slate. (Jeff Synder/Reuters)

Wondering if brother Alec will try and glom onto his bro's gig since he (alec) hasn't worked in quite some time.
What's up with the hair?

113 posted on 01/31/2003 8:18:12 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
At least he's not wearing man boobs.

A model wears this creation as part of Oskien's 2003 Autumn/Winter high fashion collection at Sao Paulo Fashion Week, January 30, 2003. REUTERS/Paulo Whitaker

114 posted on 01/31/2003 8:22:18 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty; pubmom; mountaineer; Iowa Granny; habs4ever; Timeout; Endeavor
There is a current thread that identifies freeper SEEKING THE TRUTH as the seller of these stickers. Nice to see that this freeper has no respect for The Vice President of the United States. Ask me again why I never go to events that have large groups of freepers.

At the Conservative Political Action Conference, which featured Vice President Cheney as its opening luncheon speaker yesterday, one of the various exhibition booths hawking paraphernalia had some virulently anti-Muslim vinyl bumper stickers, for $3.95, including one that said: "No Muslims -- No Terrorism."

Sources said an attendee at the group's 30th annual conference, at the Crystal City Marriott, called Cheney's office to complain and a Cheney aide called CPAC organizers to express "strong displeasure."

The booth operators removed the anti-Muslim stickers from the rack before Cheney spoke -- though they left up some more tasteful items, such as the stamps that said: "WANTED! Crimes against children," and had a picture of former attorney general Janet Reno, "A.K.A. 'The Butcher of Waco.' " And they left others supporting the Confederate flag and such.

But the offending stickers were not really taken off sale. When a Washington Post reporter asked about the anti-Muslim bumper stickers, a booth attendant smiled and reached behind a sheet, saying conference organizers had ordered her to take them off display.

"Somebody doesn't believe in free speech," she complained, offering them for $2.75 apiece.

Talk about going off-message!

115 posted on 01/31/2003 8:24:43 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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I did not know Melanie was Tippi's daughter!

Actress Tippi Hedren (news), left, with her daughter actress Melanie Griffith (news), center, with her Vietnamese actress Kieu Chinh, after Hedren received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in Los Angeles Thursday, Jan. 30, 2003. Hedren starred in many films, including Alfred Hitchock's, 'The Birds.' (AP Photo/Nick Ut)

116 posted on 01/31/2003 8:24:49 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Here are some of the classy stickers that I all know that you want on your vehicles. I can probably get a bulk rate on Screw the New World Order or The Nazi Islam. It sure takes a lot of class to put this on your car, doesn't it?


117 posted on 01/31/2003 8:30:42 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Yep, she's her daughter, but poor Melanie needs a refund on her plastic surgery. It's failing her fast.
118 posted on 01/31/2003 8:31:43 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
"Somebody doesn't believe in free speech," she complained, offering them for $2.75 apiece.

This from the same persons who would scream bloody murder if there were a bumper sticker that read, No Christians - No Pro-Life nuts from a liberal. *groan!*

119 posted on 01/31/2003 8:32:24 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
"Actress Tippi Hedren , left, with her daughter actress Melanie Griffith , center, with her Vietnamese actress Kieu Chinh,

Did Tippi purchase her Vietnamese Actress or is she just a loaner?

120 posted on 01/31/2003 8:39:55 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Happy people live longer. I plan on living forever)
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