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Why women have less to gain from marriage
The Daily Telegraph ^ | December 30, 2002 | Sarah Womack

Posted on 12/29/2002 5:16:30 PM PST by MadIvan

Marriage is more damaging to a woman's well-being than a man's because it offers her fewer immediate personal benefits, says research by a Government-funded group.

The One Plus One Marriage and Partnership Research organisation said that while married men appeared physically better off than single men, the same could not be said for married women.

Furthermore, single men were more likely to regard themselves as unhappy compared to married men. The same was not generally true of single women.

Research among more than 2,000 divorced couples found that women had to make a greater adjustment to marriage than men.

"The greater part of the husband's day will continue to be spent much as it was before his marriage, whereas this is rarely so for the wife," said Penny Mansfield, director of One Plus One.

"If she continues to work, she is likely to have to combine the job of housewife with that of full-time worker. This in itself may be a source of stress because she will have less opportunity for relaxation.

"Even if the wife does not work following marriage, there may be adjustment difficulties for her since she has to learn to adopt a completely different lifestyle.

"The absence of colleagues, workmates and the loss of an independent income will require varying degrees of adaptation which may all contribute to a sense of increasing isolation."

Half of those surveyed reported difficulties of sexual adjustment, particularly after the birth of a baby, while about the same (48 per cent) spoke of adjustment difficulties connected with housing and finance.

Most (73 per cent) said the problems which led to marital failure started within the first five years but for a third they surfaced within the first 12 months. The duration of marital "happiness" among the couples, whose marriages lasted an average of 10-14 years, was only 3.87 years.

The Government is spending millions of pounds on research into why marriages fail and what can be done to help couples stay together.

Family campaigners blame marital breakdown on Labour policies which have stripped away the tax benefits and most of the legal privileges that go with staying married.

In August the Lord Chancellor's department acknowledged that the number of couples who divorced rose for the first time in almost a decade. There were 860 more decrees absolute - the legal measure that finalises divorce - last year than in 2000, making a total of 137,270 completed divorces.

The organisation pointed to American research which showed that couples who did manage to stay married allowed each spouse to retain some sense of autonomy.

That meant being careful about what was argued about and accepting compromises. The basic components of long-lasting marriages were love, trust and respect.


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To: Jhoffa_
Bachelor's chore list:

1. Pay the maid service.
2. Eat out.
3. Pick up clothes from the cleaners.

hehehe...
101 posted on 12/29/2002 6:15:55 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: kstewskis
The discouraging part is meeting the fellow (or woman, depending who you are) that has been so burned by a previous marraige, they are ruined for life, and will not trust anyone.

That's why most of the men I date are 6 - 16 years younger than I am. Once they are my age, they are so cynical and stubborn that they can't be any fun.

102 posted on 12/29/2002 6:16:50 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: nhoward14
LOL!

Married woman's checklist:

1. Pay the maid service.
2. Eat out.
3. Pick up clothes from the cleaners.

Seriously, I don't why on earth my husband ever married me...
103 posted on 12/29/2002 6:17:31 PM PST by marajade
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To: ValerieUSA
...lol, I'll have to keep that in mind, Valerie! ;)
104 posted on 12/29/2002 6:17:58 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: ValerieUSA
Yes, I definitely agree there... but they are discussing marriage which has nothing to do with love... at least according to Spaceballs.
105 posted on 12/29/2002 6:18:14 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: goody2shooz

either that or you are being chased and caught by commitmentphobics
106 posted on 12/29/2002 6:18:25 PM PST by atpeace
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To: sinkspur
Oh, thank goodness. An adult in the group.

You are right, marriage is a long-term committment. It has it's better years, and some that are not so great. I believe that some researchers in the U.S. did a survey of married couples happiness a few years ago. What they found was that couples who rated their happiness low, if they stayed with the marriage, 3-5 years down the line were much happier than they had been when first polled. You have to hang in there.

There have been times when I've wondered about this whole marriage thing; but, those doubts pass when I sit and think about what my single life was like. And, what I remember was a lot of sitting home alone, going to holiday family functions alone; and, having my heart broken on numerous occassions by some jerk. My hubbys not perfect and neither am I; but, he is always there. (BTW, we will be married 22 years on Jan. 3)

107 posted on 12/29/2002 6:18:59 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Miss Marple
My husband does the laundry, cleans the house, does the gardening AND is a gourmet cook. Then, he gets up at 6:00am to clean my store before I get there. I'm not making this up girls. He is 20 years older than me and appreciates having a younger wife!
108 posted on 12/29/2002 6:19:27 PM PST by Hildy
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To: MadIvan
Is there any possibility of a tax cut with Labour in charge?
109 posted on 12/29/2002 6:19:28 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat
Is there any possibility of a tax cut with Labour in charge?

No.

Regards, Ivan

110 posted on 12/29/2002 6:20:33 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Hildy
Does he have a brother? lol
111 posted on 12/29/2002 6:20:59 PM PST by atpeace
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To: Miss Marple
Oh, I don't have a problem with griping. We all have our little things that bug us about the other person, I'm sure. But, the overall tone of the thread is really discouraging.

I have a wonderful husband who loves me dearly and treats me well. I've always thought that if each person puts the other person's need ahead of his own, they can't go wrong. That's the way we treat each other and we're both very happy.

Candi
112 posted on 12/29/2002 6:21:42 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: marajade
"I would rather watch Timothy Dalton."

Really? We own a couple of Brosnan's 007 movies... I think he's a great actor...

No one has yet mentioned the greatest Bond of all - the Magnificent Sir Sean Connery. I was doing a little channel surfing and hit on one of his old Bond movies - I'd forgotten how absolutely GORGEOUS he was in his youth. (And for a lady of my years, he's STILL gorgeous - I think I like him even better without the rug he used to wear.)

113 posted on 12/29/2002 6:21:57 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: atpeace
No brother, just a sister who doesn't cook, clean or anything like that...a CEO of a company. Go figure!
114 posted on 12/29/2002 6:22:00 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Miss Marple
Since I make a hot breakfast every morning, do all the yard work, all the laundry, and am constantly on call for cooking, snacks, errands, etc. I feel I am entitled to grip about this one small thing.

Well, my wife does all the cooking (she absolutely loves it), but I do the yard work, the laundry (yes, my wife can't seem to separate the clothes properly), take care of the cars, do all the bills, and clean the house. Oh, and I feed the three dogs and six cats.

As long as I'm fed the gourmet stuff she dishes out, I'll earn my keep!

Chicken cacciatore on the menu tonight.

115 posted on 12/29/2002 6:22:24 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: goody2shooz
Does anyone think it might be the ten housecats and live-in 10 year old nephew?

Nope, just the smell of them.

116 posted on 12/29/2002 6:23:10 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: nhoward14
"LOL" is right.. I wish it were that easy, actually.

I tell you though, it does inspire some really unique and innovative projects.. Like robotic vacuum cleaners.

(a lawnmower would be much more useful, but I could imagine it chopping some overly curious kiddie fingers off.)

If you look at the numbers and you go strictly by those, leaving out all emotion and the religious facets.. Men have much more to lose from marriage than they do to gain.

Given the secular direction of our society, I am frankly surprised anyone is married anymore. I was just out with the "activity partner" last night actually.

117 posted on 12/29/2002 6:23:59 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: ValerieUSA
I don't understand why they study failed marriages to learn how to improve marriage statistics.

That was my first thought, too! Did the study say how long these divorced people had been divorced? Almost everyone is pretty cynical after a divorce, for a while.

Sheesh, I wouldn't ask someone who was divorced what it takes to make a successful marriage...and that is coming from someone who is divorced. I don't know for sure since my marriage didn't work out, but I think if both people loved each other and wanted the best for the other, all sorts of obstacles and lifestyle changes could be worked out.

118 posted on 12/29/2002 6:24:01 PM PST by LBGA
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To: Hildy
My husband is very similar to yours and the thing that's wonderful is that I never asked him to do it. He does it because he loves me and likes to "lighten my load".
119 posted on 12/29/2002 6:24:37 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Seriously, I love my husband... Even though he's very ill he does the cooking and the bill paying...

I make an attempt to clean the house... I'm okay with laundry...

We've been married 13 years and I wouldn't have missed them for anything...
120 posted on 12/29/2002 6:25:31 PM PST by marajade
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