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The Guild 11-14-2002 Abraham Unveils Hydrogen-Car System
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| 11-12-2002
| By DAVID GOODMAN
Posted on 11/14/2002 4:43:46 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) - Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham (news - web sites) released a "roadmap" Tuesday for putting fuel cells in the nation's cars and trucks, further committing the United States to a hydrogen-based transportation system.
"Creating the hydrogen fuel cell vehicle of the future presents complex technical challenges," he told business leaders at the Global Forum on Personal Transportation in the hometown of Ford Motor Co. "Overcoming them will take an intensive and equally complex effort — but it will be worth it because the stakes really are so high."
The Department of Energy (news - web sites) and the nation's leading car and oil companies began work one year ago on a "National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap," Abraham said.
Abraham was holding a closed-door meeting later Tuesday with the heads of the chief executives of some of the nation's leading businesses, including Ford, General Motors Corp. and Exxon Mobil Corp., as well as the leaders of American, Northwest and Southwest airlines.
Fuel cells use a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity. When pure hydrogen is used, the only tailpipe emission is water vapor.
The technology could have two big benefits: sharply cutting America's dependence on oil imports from an unstable Middle East and reducing the production of greenhouse gases widely blamed for global warming (news - web sites).
But fuel-cell technology is not expected to be widely available until the end of the decade at least.
Critics say the Bush administration and auto industry are using fuel cell research as a way to fend off calls for vehicles that get more miles per gallon.
"The whole business about fuel cell vehicles is just political theater," said analyst David Healy of Burnham Securities.
He said a much better way to reduce oil consumption is through gas-electric vehicles, some of which already are on the road.
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To: lodwick
I need a mans opinion JL, is this outfit sexy? I'm thinkin' it's hideous.
A model poses in a leopard bikini bottom and a fur hood at the Victorias Secret fashion show Thursday, Nov. 14, 2002 in New York. (AP Photo/Stephen Chernin)
To: Luis Gonzalez
No kidding, premature baldness.
Ladies.... Are any of you casting spells to make young men bald?
To: Luis Gonzalez; mountaineer; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Yes it's true, we are the cause for all the ills of the world, banning too. If we don't like you we *snap* our collective fingers and poof, you're gone.
We are also blue haired, dryed up, lezzie hags.
Ah, those little people, they are amusing, aren't they?
To: Luis Gonzalez
It's so funny that we are blamed fo everything, especially when we have no association with the posters that the LP screams about.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Ladies.... Are any of you casting spells to make young men bald? Hmmmmmmmm, let me think now.... *flipping through my need to cast a spell upon book*........
Ah yes, here it is...
Ari Fleisher. Our latest victim. He had the nerve to register for wedding presents at Target of all places! Off with his hair!!
To: BigWaveBetty
Well, I've been away on vacation all week. It seems that you all did it again!
Did another one in!
(that was a whole load of KFC between the Russ Meyer picture and the one with JimRob)
To: BigWaveBetty
Wow, that's gross. You can see her bones sticking out in a way eerily similar to the starving children photos from Ethiopia.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
What is LP?
To: Aggie Mama
It's Liberty Post. Here is what they said about us.
Seems like now that W is pushing the "Islam is a religion of peace™" BS, the guilders are falling all over each other to demonstrate how wonderful they think Muslims are, and how peaceful their Muslim friends are.
An added bonus is that Tubby is getting beat up.
Response to President Bush's Comments on Islam (PAT ROBERTSON)
Feel free to post excerpts.
Especially if you have excerpts from guilders before their "conversion."
Hehh, hehhh.....
Ya' gotta' love it...
4. To: unamused (#1)
"Winston disliked nearly all women because it was always the women who were the most bigoted adherents of The Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and the nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”
weikel posted on 2002-11-15 11:45:24 Reply
5. To: weikel (#4)
The above definitely applies to the guild.
weikel posted on 2002-11-15 11:45:58 Reply
9. To: oldvike (#7)
Ye'r right. It'll be interesting to see what happens if he continues to run afoul of the bots/guild.
unamused posted on 2002-11-15 12:07:10 Reply
16. To: unamused (#6)
you might accidentally zig when the President zags.
Anyone that keeps their nose up a politictian's ass like the guild does --deserves the broken nose when said politico does a left face.
dread posted on 2002-11-15 12:43:59 Reply
20. To: unamused (#0)
The guilders are making it safe for Cultural Jihad, Black Veil, strela and company to come out of the Muslim closet. Just watch.
P.S. For the record, I have no problems with anyone following their own spiritual path, whether I agree with it or not. What I do have a problem with is people who lie about it and try to manipulate others(or worse).
goldenstategirl posted on 2002-11-15 13:02:46 Reply
25. To: unamused (#11)
ROTF.......brought to you by the head Harpie.....the one who continually reminds dissenters or those who catch her in over her head.....the one 'who has researched and has the facts, she knows what she is talking about, yada yada yada'. She's also the one who tried to convince others that the signature "love" means you're involved in a cyber sex affair...or the real thing!!!
When cornered on her own knowledge providing the authority......she tried to head in a different direction.
The bitch is a mouthy phony who is a major problem at TOS.
Rowdee posted on 2002-11-15 13:33:40 Reply
26. To: Mercuria (#14)
Well, Merc.....looking back at the dates, i.e., Nov 2001, is it safe to assume that her trust in the Emperor wasn't of the same quality as it is today....that in the ensuing year, the required blind devotion has been honed to a fine art....or is it just typical Harpie bulls**t--she's just all over the place and her principles and beliefs run from day to day--consistency be damned? I know they certainly despise the consistent principles of Keyes and Paul and a number of others.
Of course, their savior, the Emperor, is known for saying one thing one day and saying something the next.....
Rowdee posted on 2002-11-15 13:38:22 Reply
28. To: Rowdee (#26)
Bush could tell them s**t was sugar and they would all start baking crap cakes.
Dakmar posted on 2002-11-15 13:43:22 Reply
To: BigWaveBetty
I saw healthier looking women when I was in Ethiopia in 1985.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
How bizzare. Why on earth would they spend so much time lurking here when they obviously can't stand us? Truly strange. Even more so, the bit about the defense about how wonderful Muslims are. Good grief, are the logged on to DU instead? Perhaps they have a Guild over there.
Once again, I don't understand the fascination and time put into a website or thread that they obviously have serious problems with. :::Shudder:::
To: Aggie Mama
That's the problem AM, they don't lurk here, if they did they'd know how wrong they are. But then they'd have to admit they're wrong and there's no way that's gonna happen.
To: BigWaveBetty
In my long life, I've determined the best way to deal with punks and troublemakers, is to TOTALLY ignore them. I will not be discussing the matter further, and I hope the rest of you will join me.
To: BigWaveBetty; mountaineer; *The GUILD
Are any of you guys going on the FReeper Cruise this coming May 31st? Does anyone not know about it, or need details?
Apologies for interrupting the Woodward bashing. What a nitwit is he.
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11/15/2002 12:42:40 PM PST
by
lodwick
To: Luis Gonzalez
What is up with LP hammering TheGuild? I've never seen such goofy rants - there must be another guild out there in a parallel universe that LP is talking about.
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posted on
11/15/2002 12:45:53 PM PST
by
lodwick
To: BigWaveBetty
Chickie needs a few cheeseburgers - and the outfit needs to go away, far, far away.
76
posted on
11/15/2002 12:47:35 PM PST
by
lodwick
To: BigWaveBetty
Your Kermit and Ari posts may have cost me a keyboard - stoppit already. Please.
77
posted on
11/15/2002 12:49:08 PM PST
by
lodwick
To: lodwick
Isn't it funny to see how we take the heat for things that have nothing to do with us? I saw the first few lines and thought " Who in the world are they talking about".
No Bush-bots here. No Muslim lovers either.
I am so grateful that I was born with a brain.
To: lodwick
From now on, I demand to be addressed as Haji Amin Naheed Mustafa Al-Fresco. Thanks to those infidels at LP, my secret is out. I'm really a devoted follower of the pedophile Mohammed, an ardent defender of Islamic terrorism worldwide and one heck of a couscous maker.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
They think the guild is behind the "Day in the Life" threads. Being complete and utter morons, they can't discern that the guild and that thread are distinct and unrelated things. Whatever.
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