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The Guild 11-14-2002 Abraham Unveils Hydrogen-Car System
Yahoo ^ | 11-12-2002 | By DAVID GOODMAN

Posted on 11/14/2002 4:43:46 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) - Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham (news - web sites) released a "roadmap" Tuesday for putting fuel cells in the nation's cars and trucks, further committing the United States to a hydrogen-based transportation system.


"Creating the hydrogen fuel cell vehicle of the future presents complex technical challenges," he told business leaders at the Global Forum on Personal Transportation in the hometown of Ford Motor Co. "Overcoming them will take an intensive and equally complex effort — but it will be worth it because the stakes really are so high."

The Department of Energy (news - web sites) and the nation's leading car and oil companies began work one year ago on a "National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap," Abraham said.

Abraham was holding a closed-door meeting later Tuesday with the heads of the chief executives of some of the nation's leading businesses, including Ford, General Motors Corp. and Exxon Mobil Corp., as well as the leaders of American, Northwest and Southwest airlines.

Fuel cells use a chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity. When pure hydrogen is used, the only tailpipe emission is water vapor.

The technology could have two big benefits: sharply cutting America's dependence on oil imports from an unstable Middle East and reducing the production of greenhouse gases widely blamed for global warming (news - web sites).

But fuel-cell technology is not expected to be widely available until the end of the decade at least.

Critics say the Bush administration and auto industry are using fuel cell research as a way to fend off calls for vehicles that get more miles per gallon.

"The whole business about fuel cell vehicles is just political theater," said analyst David Healy of Burnham Securities.

He said a much better way to reduce oil consumption is through gas-electric vehicles, some of which already are on the road.


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To: All
Good morning! Slow night (or busy night, depending upon how you look at it). I'm printing my draft zoning ordinance at the moment, all 10 pages of it (just think how long it would be if I weren't a conservative!).

Today's sightings and news from Page Six:

... BARBRA Streisand - though she has little to smile about since the election - at the Beverly Hills BriteSmile Center for a whitening ...

THE bawdy, brassy-broad act that Sharon Stone performed the other night at a black-tie benefit for LAPD widows and orphans didn't go over too well. As emcee, Stone opened up by saying, "So here we are, what the [bleep]." Then, auctioning a trip to Europe, she suggested to the women in the audience, "You could take an old man who can't [perform sexually]. I've been on a few of those." Sly Stallone chuckled, but California Gov. Gray Davis and new LAPD chief Bill Bratton looked mortified. [Aren't her 15 minutes up yet?]

41 posted on 11/15/2002 5:45:12 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Iowa Granny
'THE POST-election spinning of mortified Democrats shares a premise with all victims of public humiliation: If only people knew! If only people heard my side of the story! They cling to the tenacious old lie of tout comprendre c'est tout pardoner, when in most cases the less aphoristic reality is this: to understand all is not to give a %&*. Democrats refuse to face the fact that more Americans voted Republican because they wanted to."

This is Tina Brown writing for the London Times. (Quoted in Liz Smith's column. Welcome to Bizarro World - a lib who actually gets it.

42 posted on 11/15/2002 5:48:50 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: All
Liz also reports:

Tonight, Barbara Walters talks on "20/20" to Al and Tipper Gore and their daughters, Kristin and Karenna, and she claims the former VP is "funny." He says the debates in the last presidential election hurt him and describes himself as "the man who used to be the next president of the United States."

But Tipper takes the blame for her husband's "earth tone" clothes which critics claimed were suggested to Gore by handlers. Says Mrs. Gore, "I choose all his clothes. Blame me!"

43 posted on 11/15/2002 5:50:52 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; All
I know we've hardly gotten any sleep worrying about this:

BY ALEV AKTAR
DAILY NEWS FASHION EDITOR

Michael Jackson's nose is no longer Invincible. In fact, when the King of Pop showed up in a California court, it appeared to have collapsed.The singer was photographed testifying Wednesday in Santa Barbara with a swollen face and surgical tape covering what's left of his snout.

In fact, the Gloved One looked so scary that his former plastic surgeon denied any responsibility.

"Dr. Steven Hoefflin has not done any of Michael Jackson's nasal surgery since 1998, and had advised him against any further surgery," said Karen Cotton, lawyer for the Santa Monica doctor. "We have no information or knowledge about anything that Michael has done recently."

Jackson showed up late for a second day of testimony yesterday in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit filed by a promoter of two millennium concerts he missed. This time, the bandage was gone.

His lawyers complained about the presence of the pool photographer who snapped Wednesday's shocking photo. The judge refused to bar the lensman, who later told reporters he was asked in a private meeting to try and be less intrusive.

The closeup shot of Jackson, which Web services reported were among the most viewed on the Internet, sent the plastic surgery community into an uproar and fueled speculation that Jackson's nose was bandaged from a reconstructive procedure.

"Clearly, he had some sort of nasal-tip disaster," said Dr. Gerald Imber, a celebrity plastic surgeon based in Manhattan. "What probably happened is that he had some sort of support put in there and the tissue broke down. Now, it looks like he has skin grafts or something to close it up. A collapsed nose is very unusual — I've never seen one, and I've done 15,000 rhinoplasties."

Dr. Harvey Zarem, a prominent cosmetic surgeon in Santa Monica, also said it looked as though Jackson's nose had disintegrated.

"You have to put in a support structure, like a tent pole," he said. "This could have been a restoration of the tip using cartilage, bone or plastic."

While plastic surgeons were horrified by the state of Jackson's nose, dermatologists said the rest of his face is not much better.

"I don't think there's anything he hasn't done," said Dr. Dennis Gross, a Manhattan-based dermatologist and the founder of M.D. Skin Care. "It looks like he has Botox in his forehead, he's definitely had plastic surgery on his eyes, and look at his broad, perfectly squared-off chin.

"I think he's had a permanent lightening procedure using a sister compound of hydroquinone that's not legal in the U.S.," Gross added. He said that if Jackson has the skin disease vitiligo, as the singer claims, the depigmentation most likely would be uneven.

Dr. Pat Wexler, a Manhattan-based cosmetic dermatologist, suggests the entertainer also has tattooed eyebrows and eyeliner. But Wexler says it's unfair to place the blame squarely on Jackson.

"Doctors have an obligation to do what's anatomically and esthetically correct," she said. "Occasionally, someone has to say no. It's not that hard. It's just two letters."

http://www.mostnewyork.com/front/story/35707p-33707c.html

44 posted on 11/15/2002 6:03:38 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Thanks for all the info I need to know - great stuff.

A great day is wished for all passing this way.
45 posted on 11/15/2002 6:14:18 AM PST by lodwick
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To: lodwick; All
I don't know why this Michael Jackson thing has me so amused. I guess it's the old trainwreck scenario - so horrible, you just can't look away.

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (Reuters) - Entertainer Michael Jackson spent a second day testifying on Thursday in a $21 million lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts, saying that he could shed little light on matters like contracts and finances because he was busy being "a visionary." full story

Associated Press: Santa Maria, California-AP -- Michael Jackson wants to delay his testimony in a 21 (m) million dollar lawsuit against him. Jackson is asking a California judge to push back next week's testimony so he can travel to Germany to accept an award. He calls the award "philanthropic" -- saying he's "done a lot of work for children." .... source

46 posted on 11/15/2002 6:29:20 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: lodwick
Well, that's really more than I care to know about Michael. I seriously doubt I will be able to drag any of this stuff into any conversations I will have in the future.

Furnace installation project should be completed today. I am looking forward being warm.
47 posted on 11/15/2002 6:30:53 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
I promise, no more Michael Jackson nose news - gotta run.
48 posted on 11/15/2002 6:36:32 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: SuziQ
I am just about ready to lose my mind!!

On the Rob Nelson Show this morning is parents who do drugs with their kids.

On right now is a mom who was smoking pot and her teenage son decided that he wanted to do with her. So they do it just about every single day together. Thank goodness the host said " Well that makes you a pothead, doesn't it".

Dr Drew is on explaining how pot effects memory, the growth of the right lobe of the brain which does not help a person mature ( that makes sense, think of all the potheads you know) and it makes it very difficult to learn in school.

Now the mother is saying that she doesn't advocate alcohol abuse or drug abuse, but sees nothing wrong with pot. I want to smack her upside the head.

One out of 5 admissions for drug dependency rehab is for pot.
49 posted on 11/15/2002 8:24:24 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: mountaineer
Very true (re: populist and pelosi). If "populist" means the likes of a Wellstone, then neither Ford or Pelosi can honestly carry that title. But, since when have the democrats ever been honest?

All I heard yesterday (I took a vacation day to attack the leaves in the yard - it looked really great when I was done. But today, the neighbor's leaves apparently were envious of my green grass and nicely swept driveway and sidewalks and invited themselves over. Then the rain came - what a mess, but I digress) was "Pelosi, Pelosi, Pelosi." Even from Pelosi herself - she is arrogant, isn't she?! That makes me happy because I think the people of America are weary of sycophantic politicians.

Last night, I watched Scott Pelle's documentary on the President and 9/11. It, at times, was so hard to watch - the planes crashing into the WTC buildings, the Pentagon - I actually felt my stomach wrench with the photo of Barbara Olson's plane going into the Pentagon. And then to see the WTC buildings come down. But it was worth sticking through all that to see the magnificent way that the president and his staff confronted the most difficult time in all our lives.

That it came on a day when Tom Daschle and Hillary Clinton just nailed the president for "not doing enough" to get Bin Laden, just showed how ruthless and inappropriate they both are as "leaders" of America. Absolutely made me sick to compare their words from yesterday to the president's words and behavior, and that of his cabinet, after 9/11.

To those who say we haven't done enough in the War on Terror - get a clue. We knew a week after 9/11 that there would be a 100% chance of another major attack on the US at some point. That hasn't changed. However, we've made significant strides in getting our intelligence agencies to work together. Do we still have significant work to do - YOU BET. But we've done a lot, and will continue to fight this fight and to WIN IT, regardless of whether we get hit again and again and again. Just like the Brits kept fighting during and after the London blitz, so will Americans.

OK, rant off.
50 posted on 11/15/2002 8:52:06 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
Excellent rant. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw Pelosi say " This is a staggering event", in reference to her win.

She is so impressed with her own greatness. barf

51 posted on 11/15/2002 9:04:31 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
She is so impressed with her own greatness.

Oh,,, this is going to be so much fun!!!

They don't have a clue. They've given Rush fodder until the next election cycle. The Lord works in mysterious ways!

52 posted on 11/15/2002 9:32:44 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Endeavor
Excellent thoughts - thanks for bringing them here. ;-)
53 posted on 11/15/2002 9:47:59 AM PST by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Thank you, lod.
54 posted on 11/15/2002 9:49:31 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
Why is it all the "populist" Dem politicians who complain about the evil wealthy while insisting they're the ones who care about "working Americans" are really limousine liberals who have never actually worked for a living, who have never clipped a coupon for salad dressing or cereal, who don't bake cupcakes for the PTA because that's not what it's called at St. Albans or Phillips Andover or wherever their spawn attend, who don't know or care which each gas station has the lowest price in town? Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Jay Rockefeller, Ted Kennedy - the whole lot of these gasbag millionaire phoneys - don't have a clue, and I'm glad. As long as they remain clueless as to what really matters to the average American, they will continue to regurgitate the same tired old nonsense that lost them the election of 2002 (and will cost them the election of 2004).
55 posted on 11/15/2002 10:19:09 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Endeavor; *The GUILD
Great Rant! But hold on, here's something to really piss you off!

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI NOV 15, 2002 11:42:02 ET XXXXX

NEW WOODWARD BOOK REVEALED

**World Exclusive**

Ready. Set. Blastoff! On the controversial new book coming next week from Bob Woodward.

BUSH AT WAR, being tightly held by SIMON AND SCHUSTER, is now previewed, exclusively, by the DRUDGE REPORT -- even days before Woodward's own WASHINGTON POST goes to press!

Short on live bombshells, but filled with provocative observations [and the omniscient style Woodward favors], top Bush aides may soon regret giving Woodward access to the inner workings of the administration.

Now let's smash the embargo and see what Mr. Watergate has unearthed:

ROVE THOUGHT POST-9/11 WORLD SERIES GAME LIKE NAZI RALLY

"The president emerged wearing a New York Fire Department windbreaker. He raised his arm and gave a thumbs-up to the crowd on the third base side of the field. Probably 15,000 fans threw their arms in the air imitating the motion.

He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrenner’s box, Karl Rove thought, It’s like being at a Nazi rally." (p. 277)

PAINTS BUSH STYLE AS HURRIED

"Bush’s leadership style bordered on the hurried. He wanted action, solutions. Once on a course, he directed his energy at forging on, rarely looking back, scoffing at – even ridiculing – doubt and anything less than 100 percent commitment. He seemed to harbor few, if any, regrets. His short declarations could seem impulsive. (p. 256)

Bush, though quick to respond after September 11, did not pursue the bin Laden threat aggressively enough in his first eight months in office. "(p. 318)

"He had not put the country on a war footing, demanded sacrifices from large numbers of citizens, or taken what for him would be the unthinkable and draconian step of repealing his 2001 tax cut. Was it not possible that he had undermobilized given the threat and devastation of September 11?" (p. 337)

POWELL VS.

"Rove was disturbed and felt Powell was beyond political control and operating out of a sense of entitlement. “It’s constantly, you know, ‘I’m in charge, and this is all politics and I’m going to win the internecine political game,’” Rove said privately." (p. 13)

"One of Powell’s greatest difficulties was that he was more or less supposed to pretend in public that the sharp differences in the war cabinet did not exist. The president would not tolerate public discord. Powell was also held in check by his own code – a soldier obeys.

Bush might order, Go get the guns! Get my horses! – all the Texas, Alamo macho that made Powell uncomfortable. But he believed and hoped that the president knew better, that he would see the go-it-alone approach did not stand further analysis. Hopefully, the Afghan war had provided the template for that understanding.

The ghosts in the machine were Rumsfeld and Cheney in Powell’s view. Too often they went for the guns and the horses." (p. 322)

THE FUTURE

"Cheney was beyond hell-bent for action against Saddam. It was as if nothing else existed." (p. 346)

MORE

Woodward's BUSH AT WAR follows on the heels of Bill Sammon's NYT Bestseller FIGHTING BACK, THE WAR ON TERRORISM FROM INSIDE THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE, intensifying the cross-town rivalry between The WASHINGTON TIMES and the WASHINGTON POST.

Impacting...

*********************************

Someone needs to let Woodward know his fifteen minutes were up long ago. I predict this book dives to the murky depths like a stone.

56 posted on 11/15/2002 10:34:03 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Alex Pelosi isn't getting the nepotism she deserves!

[snip]
The writer-director of "Journeys with George," the HBO documentary about George W. Bush's presidential campaign, has been following her mom around Capitol Hill this week and recording events for posterity. Yesterday Nancy Pelosi's opponents, Tennessee's Harold Ford Jr. and Ohio's Marcy Kaptur, agreed to let her daughter attend the closed-door meeting in the Cannon Caucus Room, but the younger Pelosi was told to leave the camera outside.

Instead she gave it to avocational photographer Sam Farr, a member from California and staunch Pelosi partisan who videotaped portions of the secret proceedings. "She didn't slip the camera to me; I demanded that she give it to me because I like to record history," Farr told us. "My style as a photographer is photojournalism -- so my focus was people .... I think Alexandra and I will have to decide what we do with the video, depending."

Farr added: "Whatever grumbling there was came from the staffers. I didn't hear anything from members....We're the party of transparency." But another witness, who asked for anonymity, told us: "Some members were grumbling that it was inappropriate and disrespectful to have a camera in a closed caucus meeting. One member said, 'This is not George Bush's press plane.' " Our efforts to reach Alexandra Pelosi were unsuccessful.Link

57 posted on 11/15/2002 10:45:39 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Finally Kermit get the recognition he deserves!

The most popular Muppet of all time, Kermit the Frog, poses with a plaque November 14, 2002 in Hollywood after receiving his own star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Kermit received the plaque in honor of his career in television, movies and music. REUTERS/Fred Prouser

It's not easy being green.

58 posted on 11/15/2002 10:55:56 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: *The GUILD
From: Jack Oliver
Deputy Chairman
Republican National Committee

This Sunday, November 17, Suzie Terrell will debate her opponent Mary Landrieu on NBC's Meet the Press. Make sure to tune in and see which candidate really supports President Bush and his agenda for the American people.

59 posted on 11/15/2002 10:59:05 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
So, I've been lurking over at LP. It seems that the Guild is being blamed for everything wrong in the known universe, including premature....er....baldness.

You all are REALLY popular there.
60 posted on 11/15/2002 10:59:27 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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