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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 633) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | October 15, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 10/15/2002 4:12:53 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not live in fear! [President Bush]

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

In a departure from the normal characteristics of the shootings in the Washington area, a woman was gunned down by a single bullet at a Home Depot store located at Seven Corners in Falls Church, VA. If this is the sniper, it would be the first attack inside the Beltway.

Police found a white van in Baltimore with a high-power rifle, .223 ammunition, a sniper manual, and a sign on the front dashboard "Jihad in America."

In Florida, polling data shows Gov. Bush with the support of 48%, and McBride at 45%, with three weeks left till the election.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: atrw; letsroll
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To: Utah Girl
"I've signed an executive order, I've created a law, now everyone will obey it." NOT.

Frankly, I don't think they really care about that.

What I believe motivates them is the desire to be seen "doing something" about the "problem." They crave to be seen as "responsive" to the needs of the public, and "able to provide" protection.

Since, of course, they can do no such thing, the only other thing is legislation and regulation: "I did something, I passed a law. And that is more important than anything else that could occur from this tragic situation because this will serve to protect future people from becoming victims [notice to make this argument one has to write off the recently deceased(!!)]. I don't think it would do any good to dwell on the past - the people want solutions for the future, and I have provided it for them."

But what is the really sad part? Many of we the people seem to lose our brains and common sense when we hear this drivel, buy into it, and lead the cheer.

Ugh.

241 posted on 10/15/2002 4:36:56 PM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Yes, but a former Administration decided to test the boundaries of the Act, by taking it into areas beyond observation and reporting.

And in so doing has created a distrust of any military involvement in a domestic investigation. Yet another stain on x42's legacy.

242 posted on 10/15/2002 4:37:36 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
True, so true. Great comments.
243 posted on 10/15/2002 4:41:57 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Thanks for the explanation. I'm sure I'll have another briefing on it (and a host of other things, like Laws of Land Warfare) before the year is out. They have videos now. Terminally boring videos. grin!

BTW, on a totally different topic, have you been watching "The Ship" on the History Channel? Trill and I found it entertaining, for reality TV.

/john

244 posted on 10/15/2002 4:49:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; JRandomFreeper; M Kehoe; ABG(anybody but Gore); Molly Pitcher; ...
In the meantime, here are remarks that Ari made today concerning the President's thoughts on the subject .......

President Bush is receiving daily briefings on a Washington-area sniper as part of his national security review every morning, but he has not changed his mind on gun control laws nor does he support firearm "fingerprinting."

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Tuesday that "fingerprinting," a process in which ballistics samples from individual firearms would be put in a federal database to match a gun owner with a gun, is unreliable and inaccurate.

"There are some issues that are raised with this that deal with the accuracy of the ballistic fingerprinting that need to be explored and reviewed before any final determination can be made," Fleischer said.

The president also questions the need for new gun laws in general, Fleischer added.

"How many laws can we really have to stop crime if people are determined in their heart to violate them no matter how many there are or what they say?" he asked.

From this thread .......

Bush: New Gun Laws Counterproductive

245 posted on 10/15/2002 4:53:39 PM PDT by kayak
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To: Molly Pitcher
We put duct tape on the wart on my youngest daughter's foot. She fussed quite a bit, but we insisted that it's just like a bandaid.

Grrrr...I'm on a break from teaching, but I STILL have to put up with the e-mails. Today I got one which is a "poem" composed of actual quotes by President Bush. Why do liberals do stupid things all the time, make stupid proposals that run against all logic, defend the stupidest of stupid ideas, and then think that our president is stupid just because, like everyone else, he misspeaks once in a while?

246 posted on 10/15/2002 5:03:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: All
Breaking On Fox News Two Dark Skinned Individuals Hispanic/Middle Eastern Complexion


COMPOSITE Sketch On The Way

I'm fully prepared ......


247 posted on 10/15/2002 5:16:36 PM PDT by kayak
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To: kayak
I just bought tin foil yesterday, so I am prepared. I do think this is a terrorist attack...
248 posted on 10/15/2002 5:19:58 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
I went to the store the day before yesterday ...... and tin foil was on my list ..... I guess our instincts told us to stock up ...... *grins*
249 posted on 10/15/2002 5:22:09 PM PDT by kayak
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To: kayak; Utah Girl
I'm with you, I think it's terrorism. I hope we find out quickly.

/john

250 posted on 10/15/2002 5:23:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
John, I've been thinking that this could be two shooters. Unless I haven't been paying attention, all of those who died on the scene were one shot to the head. The two that survived were body shots and one fellow, who lived for a couple of hours, was a body shot - I think. So, why would the shooter change from head shots to body shots?
251 posted on 10/15/2002 5:28:57 PM PDT by jtill
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To: JRandomFreeper
Me too. Especially for potential future victims. May God grant the victims families peace.
252 posted on 10/15/2002 5:29:06 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: jtill
I don't know what the score was on head shots vs. body shots. I don't think that it necessarily points to two different shooters. That's a pretty firm statement of "insufficient data". grin!

/john

253 posted on 10/15/2002 5:36:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Utah Girl
I just bought tin foil yesterday,

I have the large, industrial-sized roll from Costco.

254 posted on 10/15/2002 5:44:27 PM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
BTW, what is your take about the following scenario. If it turns out that the snipers are foreign nationals in civilian clothing killing Americans on our soil, do they get the German saboteur treatment? or civil court in VA?

And which would be worse for them? VA is about as good at Texas at being able to see the death-row line move.

/john

255 posted on 10/15/2002 5:49:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
And which would be worse for them? VA is about as good at Texas at being able to see the death-row line move.

I would like to treat them as illegal combatants and put before a tribunal.

Consider this in the equation - Maryland gets first crack at him because that's where the first murder occurred. They aren't too good at taking care of these sorts of folks.

256 posted on 10/15/2002 5:53:46 PM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: illstillbe
Yet another reason to love illstillbe!
257 posted on 10/15/2002 5:54:16 PM PDT by still lurking
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
I would like to treat them as illegal combatants and put before a tribunal.

I concur. Who is the final arbiter of that decision? I know SCOTUS has the final say on appeal, but is it the President? or Maryland's Gov? on the executive side? Or do good intentioned Americans come together and expiditiously walk them up the 13 steps to a long drop and a short rope?

/john

258 posted on 10/15/2002 6:01:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
Who is the final arbiter of that decision?

The President decides.

His criteria are:

Foreign nationals who are not otherwise military and who are involved in warlike acts on the United States, preferably overseas, which would involve the disclosure of sensitive information if they were to be tried in civilian courts.

Unfortunately, that's going to be a reach here. Which is sad.

Then, again, maybe we just ship them off to Gitmo until we can figure it out, precisely. Which could take awhile.

259 posted on 10/15/2002 6:07:00 PM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hopefully, whichever LEO approaches these douchebags does the right thing on the spot.

Two years ago, I would not have said that - things have changed in my world, in my country, and in my opinion.
260 posted on 10/15/2002 6:19:54 PM PDT by lodwick
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