Elizabeth Smart Thread, 9/17/02 to ???

[Utah Girl]

Just thought I would start a new thread.

[anatolfz]

In re: outside the box;
"Pushing the envelope" is another such. People are always taking a very specific, limited technical thing and using it as an extended and lazy metaphor becauser they like the snappiness. Both are kind of specific to their disciplines really.

[sandude]

Oh, puhleeze!

Oh, puhleeze yourself! LE has been investigating this thing for over 3 months. If Ed had something to hide don't you think they would have been onto him by now? How about the press? Do you think they have just been sitting on their hands all these weeks? There's no smoke here Pallidin. You need to give it a rest.

[anatolfz]

Y a toutes sortes

The poem goes: "There are all kinds of people, and they know all kinds of people, and then those people know all kinds of people ... " a bit like this site, n'est-ce pas? I can find the rest tomorrow if you like. It's really ridiculous: "And then those people tell those people what those people think those people think", etc.

[varina davis]

Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler!" SHRIMP AND SAUSAGE JAMBALAYA 2 tablespoons vegetable oil 1/2 pound andouille or spicy smoked sausage, cut into 1/2-inch slices 1/2 cup sliced celery 1 small onion, chopped 1 clove garlic, minced 1 1/3 cups chicken broth 1 can (8 ounces) whole peeled tomatoes, coarsley chopped, undrained 1 bay leaf 1/4 teaspoon Tabasco brand pepper sauce 1/4 teaspoon dried oregano leaves 1/4 teaspoon dried thyme leaves 1/8 teaspoon ground allspice 3/4 cup uncooked rice 1/2 pound shrimp, peeled, deveined and cut in half lengthwise Celery leaves In large heavy saucepot or Dutch oven, heat oil over medium-high heat. Add sausage, celery, onion, green pepper and garlic. Cook 5 minutes or until vegetables are tender; stir frequently. Stir in broth, tomatoes, bay leaf, Tabasco sauce, oregano, thyme and allspice. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer uncovered 10 minutes; stir occasionally. Stir in rice. Cover; simmer 15 minutes. Add shrimp; cover and simmer 5 minutes longer or until rice is tender and shrimp turn pink. Let stand covered 10 minutes. Remove bay leaf. Garnish with celery leaves. CAJUN CORN PUDDING 4 cup cut corn 4 eggs 1 tablespoon diced pimiento 2 tablespoons diced bell pepper Seasoned bread crumbs 1 stick butter Salt to taste Dash of cayenne (red) pepper Paprika Cut corn from fresh cob and then scrape and catch "milk" until you have four cups of corn and liquid. Canned cream style or whole kernel corn, or a combination of both, can also be substituted. Beat eggs with a fork and add to corn with the pimiento and bell pepper. Spread 1/3 of this mixture over the bottom of a deep casserole. Sprinkle a layer of bread crumbs over this, and dot with pats of butter. Repeat this procedure twice, but stop before you add the bread crumbs the last time. Slowly pour the "milk" over the dish, then add the rest of bread crumbs and butter; sprinkle with paprika. Bake at 350 degrees until firm, about 30 minutes. BOURBON STREET BEIGNET PUFFS Crisco shortening for deep frying 1 cup water 1/2 cup butter 1 cup all-purpose flour 1 tablespoon plus 1-1/2 teaspoons sugar 1/4 teaspoon salt 4 eggs (at room temperature) 1-1/2 teaspoons vanilla Confectioners sugar Heat 2 or 3 inches Crisco to 365ºF in deep fryer or deep saucepan. Combine water and butter salt. Add to boiling liquid all at once. Stir on medium heat until dough is smooth, glossy and comes away from side of pan. Remove from heat. Stir 2 minutes to cool slightly. Add eggs one at a time. Beat after each addition until well blended. Beat in vanilla. Drop by teaspoonfuls, a few at a time, into shortening heated to 365ºF. Fry 7 or 8 minutes or until evenly brown. Turn as needed for even browning. Remove with slotted metal spoon Drain on paper towels. Roll in confectioners sugar. Serve warm. Makes 2 1/2 dozen.

[varina davis]

If Ed had something to hide don't you think they would have been onto him by now? How about the press? Do you think they have just been sitting on their hands all these weeks?

No. No. And yes.

[sandude]

No. No. And yes.

Even more compact than usual varina. I won't ask you to explain yourself because you won't. I hope you're having a wonderful time being clever with yourself.

[Devil_Anse]

I would love to know the rest of the poem! And you're right, it sums up the infinite overlapping of opinions and people on freerepublic very well.

[varina davis]

One more try:

Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler!

SHRIMP AND SAUSAGE JAMBALAYA

2 tablespoons vegetable oil

1/2 pound andouille or spicy smoked sausage, cut into 1/2-inch slices

1/2 cup sliced celery

1 small onion, chopped

1 clove garlic, minced

1 1/3 cups chicken broth

1 can (8 ounces) whole peeled tomatoes, coarsley chopped, undrained

1 bay leaf

1/4 teaspoon Tabasco brand pepper sauce

1/4 teaspoon dried oregano leaves

1/4 teaspoon dried thyme leaves

1/8 teaspoon ground allspice

3/4 cup uncooked rice

1/2 pound shrimp, peeled, deveined and cut in half lengthwise

Celery leaves

In large heavy saucepot or Dutch oven, heat oil over medium-high heat. Add sausage, celery, onion, green pepper and garlic. Cook 5 minutes or until vegetables are tender; stir frequently. Stir in broth, tomatoes, bay leaf, Tabasco sauce, oregano, thyme and allspice. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer uncovered 10 minutes; stir occasionally.

Stir in rice. Cover; simmer 15 minutes. Add shrimp; cover and simmer 5 minutes longer or until rice is tender and shrimp turn pink. Let stand covered 10 minutes. Remove bay leaf. Garnish with celery leaves.

CAJUN CORN PUDDING

4 cups cut corn

4 eggs

1 tablespoon diced pimiento

2 tablespoons diced bell pepper

Seasoned bread crumbs

1 stick butter

Salt to taste

Dash of cayenne (red) pepper

cutcorn from fresh cob and then scrape and catch "milk" until you have four cups of corn and liquid. Canned cream style or whole kernel corn, or a combination of both, can also be substituted. Beat eggs with a fork and add to corn with the pimiento and bell pepper. Spread 1/3 of this mixture over the bottom of a deep casserole. Sprinkle a layer of bread crumbs over this, and dot with pats of butter. Repeat this procedure twice, but stop before you add the bread crumbs the last time. Slowly pour the "milk" over the dish, then add the rest of bread crumbs and butter; sprinkle with paprika. Bake at 350 degrees until firm, about 30 minutes.

RBON STREET BEIGNET PUFFS

shortening for deep frying;1 cup water;1/2 cup butter;1 cup all-purpose flour;1 tablespoon plus 1-1/2 teaspoons sugar;1/4 teaspoon salt;4 eggs (at room temperature);1-1/2 teaspoons vanilla;Confectioners sugar Heat 2 or 3 inches Crisco to 365ºF in deep fryer or deep saucepan. Combine water and butter salt. Add to boiling liquid all at once. Stir on medium heat until dough is smooth, glossy and comes away from side of pan. Remove from heat. Stir 2 minutes to cool slightly. Add eggs one at a time. Beat after each addition until well blended. Beat in vanilla. Drop by teaspoonfuls, a few at a time, into shortening heated to 365ºF. Fry 7 or 8 minutes or until evenly brown. Turn as needed for even browning. Remove with slotted metal spoon Drain on paper towels. Roll in confectioners sugar. Serve warm. Makes 2 1/2 dozen.

[varina davis]

That should be "BOURBON STREET BEIGNET PUFFS" -- having a little problem with spacing.

[Palladin]

MYOB. I was simply pointing out to DA that historically there are many killers who start out at a late age, like Westy.

And for the record, I do not believe that Ed Smart killed his daughter.

skared, your posts on the pants made me think:

Sponge Bob--Squarepants
Ed Smart--TanPants

(Yeah, silly...I know).

[varina davis]

I hope you're having a wonderful time being clever with yourself.

What's with clever?? It was pretty straightforward.

[Palladin]

Knock it off, varina, with the N'Orlins recipes! I'm on a diet. This is cruel and unusual punishment!

[sandude]

Sponge Bob--Squarepants

Ed Smart--TanPants

I love Sponge Bob and I'll never look at Ed the same way again.

[Devil_Anse]

Well.......Varina! You're making me want to get in the car and drive directly to Liuzza's or some such place in New Orleans right now. I'll bet you make a good mirliton casserole, too. And I'll bet you're one of those people who glances at those overly-bland recipes they have on the back of the bag of red beans, and shakes their head and laughs!

If I can really manage to make those square doughnuts like they make them at one of the coffee places, my son will worship the ground I walk on. Thanks!

[sandude]

It was pretty straightforward.

Yes but not specific, never specific, always beating around the bush. You insinuate that Ed is guilty of something that the police or media haven't discovered. What would that be varina?

[Devil_Anse]

No need to be rude to Sandude and Scaredkat. I didn't see you telling your friend to "MYOB" when s/he jumped in with his/her opinion on "gullible evangelical Christians."

IMO, New Orleans recipes have more to do with this case than "gullible evangelical Christians."

[anatolfz]

I don't know about that, it sounds delicious. Here's what I've had, though:
1 peck potatoes 2 chickens (3 or 3 1/2 lbs each)
2-3 large onions
1/4 lb butter
6 strips bacon
salt & pepper to taste
poultry seasoning [they mean savoury]

You will need a grater, a large pan (17"x12"x2"), and a sturdy cloth bag.

Simmer the chickens in a pot on top of the stove with plenty of onions and seasonings. When cooked, separate the meat from the bones and chop meat into pieces. Save the broth.

Meanwhile, peel the potatoes and soak in cold water. Grate about 10 potatoes at a time and then place them in a cloth bag. Squeeze tightly until all the water and starch is removed. Do all the potatoes this way. Save the liquid from the potatoes: measure it. You must measure an equal amount of chicken broth to replace the potato water. When the potatoes are all squeezed, loosen them in a large pan and gradually add the measured chicken broth, stirring slowly. The potatoes may take on a jelly-like appearance. Be sure there are no lumps. Add seasonings and stir, stir, stir!

Cover the bottom of a well-greased pan with half the potato mixture. Arrange chicken pieces, chopped onion, and pats of butter on top. Cover with the other half of the potato mixture. Then add a bit of chopped onion, more pats of butter and six strips of bacon. This will form the crust. Place pie in a hot (400F) oven for about 2 hours, or until a brown crust is formed.

Delicious with applesauce or cranberry sauce. Serves 12.

(It should taste like chicken-flavoured potato jello. Ugh. It's good for you though.)

[Devil_Anse]

I have no idea who Sponge Bob is (Simpsons?), but I'm thinking maybe this abductor wore those clothes after seeing Ed wear that style day in and day out.

Which brings to mind a small factoid: after Ricci allegedly burglarized the home of Ed's neighbor Sue Ann Adams, one of the items missing was a man's shirt. And I thought I read that a man's shirt, identified as having been taken in a burglary, was found when the police searched the Riccis' property.

And when I go here, I admit I'm really stretching, but: I read the indictment and the supporting affidavit, regarding the burglary at Sue Ann Adams'. They listed Sue Ann herself as the homeowner. It just makes me wonder if there was a man in Ms. Adams' household or not, at the time of that burglary in April, 2001. If there wasn't, whose shirt was that that Ricci apparently filched from there?

[scaredkat]

Interesting. Sounds like she often went running in pre-dawn hours. Also, the brand of the canvas shoes is different in this earlier story.


This is very interesting to me! I have been looking for something like this on the side.
The reason for this is when I was talking to a Sheriff I kept asking him, "are you sure you have the right shoes" (they were showing me a different copy of a pair of shoes.) I said, "there is something really wrong here", because I thought they had said a different kind of shoes at first and the shoe print of these shoes resembled the footprints I found.

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if I was right I will

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cant say it angres me. June 9th she was so close to me that day.*****
sorry hope you understand my frustration.

[scaredkat]

I think they called a halt to these. There is something going on but its convidential because they dont want press to catch on just yet. I could state but I do hesitate, all have to think about it --- I dont want to hinder what they are doing.