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UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA LAYFETTE (0-1) @ A&M AUG 31: The Wrecking Crew
established a new BIG 12 record with 10 turnovers, bailing out a sputtering
offense in a 31-7 win over the Ragin' Cajuns.
GAME SUMMARY: The Ags used the start of the first quarter to quickly show
why first games are so important for the skill positions on offense. After
receiving the kickoff, the Ags used a false start penalty, a soph Derek five
yard scamper and an illegal block to quickly move backwards from the 39-yd
line to the 24-yd line. After two incomplete passes, junior Cody Scates'
36-yd punt gave ULL the ball on their 33-yd line.
The Wrecking Crew forced ULL to punt after three downs, but in a game of
field position the Ragin' Cajuns seized the initial advantage by using their
38-yd punt to push the Ags back to their own 25-yd line.
After going three and out, A&M returned the ball to the Cajun's via Scates'
44-yd punt. Two first downs and an Aggie off sides allowed ULL to move the
ball to the 8-yd line before the WC forced a fumble and senior Brain Gamble
recovered it at the 10-yd line. Three plays and minus yardage later the Ags
punted again giving ULL great field position at the A&M 35-yd line. A 7-yd
sack did not deter ULL as they used two first downs and a defensive pass
interference call to move to the Aggie 2-yd line. Again the Wrecking Crew
forced a fumble that was recovered by junior tackle Linnus Smith. An illegal
forward lateral penalty gave the Aggies the ball on the 4-yd line.
The possession took the Aggies into the second quarter, but again they came
away empty handed, after senior QB Mark Farris drove them 71-yds in 12
plays, when Fish Todd Pegram was wide right on a 39-yd FG attempt. However,
the Wrecking Crew's intensity, feeding off the 75,087 record opening game
crowd, intensified and as a result the Ragin' Cajuns offense began to
disappear.
On the next series the ULL QB was sacked for a 17-yd loss, fumbled and
senior linebacker Jared Morris recovered at the ULL 5-yd line. After three
plays netted one yd, Pegram booted a 21-yd FG putting the Ags up, 3-0.
The Wrecking Crew continued to give the offense the ball in great field
position courtesy of Gamble's INT at the ULL 17 with 8:52 remaining and DB
senior Sean Weston's INT at the A&M 40 at 6:51. Added to the ULL offensive
disaster was senior DB Sammy Davis's INT at the A&M 6-yd line with 3:05 to
go. However, dropped passes by receivers, penalties, missed FG attempts, and
eight consecutive missed throws by Farris resulted in the senior being
benched. Back up QB soph Dustin Long came on to throw two INTs and the half
ended with A&M holding a 3-0 lead.
The Wrecking Crew seemed to start the third period with even more intensity
than they had displayed in the second period and the offense began to put
the gifts to use with the result that A&M created separation between
themselves and ULL on the scoreboard.
On the first play of the first second half series Gamble recovered a Cajun
fumble on the ULL 17-yd line. Four plays later senior fullback Joe Webber
scored from the two and with the PAT A&M was up, 10-0. The key offensive
play was a 13-yd completion from Farris to senior Bethel Johnson on third
and eight that moved the ball from the 15-yd line to the two to set up
Webber's plunge.
Two series later ULL was continuing to go nowhere when soph Bryon Jones'
returned an INT 36-yds for a TD. With the PAT the Ags increased their lead
to 17-0. And so it continued.
After the A&M offense turned the ball over on downs, the Ragin' Cajuns gave
it back to them as redshirt freshman Jaxson Appel collected the first INT of
his career on the A&M 47-yd line. Eight plays later senior Dwain Goynes ran
it in from the two and Pegrams' PAT made the score 24-0. Key plays in the
short drive were Farris' 24-yd pass to senior Greg Porter to the ULL 16
followed by soph Derek Farmer's 13-yd run to put the ball on the three yd
line.
On ULL's next series senior Terrence Kiel's INT gave the Aggies the ball on
the Cajun 26-yd line. With 11:02 remaining in the fourth quarter coach
Slocum inserted A&M's #1 recruit, fish Reggie McNeal, into the game at QB.
McNeal led a suddenly rejuvenated offense on an eight play 26-yd scoring
drive in his first series at QB. Key plays were a 19-yd pass to Johnson for
a first down at the 12-yd line, but an unsportsmanlike penalty pushed the
ball back to the 27. A nine yd pass to senior Greg Porter preceded scrambles
by McNeal of 5- and 7-yds and runs of 3-yds (junior Oschler Fleming), 4-yds
(Farmer) and a false start penalty. With a first down on the ULL four,
Farmer followed a one yd rush by senior Tracy Jones with a three yd TD
plunge. The PAT put the Ags up 31-0.
Slocum and the coaching staff continued to make liberal substitutions in
order to build depth and the defensive inexperience showed on ULL's next
series. After the Ragin' Cajuns recovered their own fumble on the A&M 36-yd
line they earned a first down at the 31-yd line. ULL finally broke through
on a 4th and 10, 31-yd TD pass play to culminate an 80-yd drive. The PAT
made the score 31-7 with 5:36 remaining.
A&M's #4 QB redshirt freshman Jason Carter led the Ags on their last series
driving the team from the A&M 39 to the ULL 30. The 10 play series ended
when Pegram missed a 47-yd FG attempt. Key plays in the 31-yd drive were 21-
and 16-yd scrambles by Carter. The game ended with ULL on the Cajun 30-yd
line.
OFFENSE: Best that can be said is the offense's play was very uneven. In the
first half they failed to take advantage of five of six turnovers, receivers
dropped passes (at least six hit them in the hands), penalties killed
drives, and the OL's mental mistakes often made one think they were
operating from a different playbook.
By games end the offense had generated 423 total yds even with the QBs a
dismal collective 18-for-47 with two INTs. Most of the yardage (140 yds in
the third quarter and 150 yds in the 4th quarter) came after the ULL defense
had collapsed. The 179 yds running on 47 rushes is also somewhat deceptive
considering the QBs accounted for 70 of those yds on plays not necessarily
designed for a run. A&M had five scoring drives, but the longest was 53 yds
and the other four were 26 yds or less.
QUARTERBACK: All four QBs received playing time. Farris was 13-32-0-171,
Long was 3-12-2-45, McNeal was 2-2-0-28 and Carter was 0-1-0-0.
RUNNING BACK: The running game still has not gelled. A&M gained 37 yds on 14
carries in the first half. In the second half the Ags added 142 rushing yds.
In all the tailbacks gained 88 yds on 33 carries while the QBs and receivers
rushed for 90 yds. The top three rushers were Carter (3-42), Farmer (18-39),
and Goynes (8-34).
RECEIVERS: The top three receivers were Johnson (6 catches for 96 yds),
Porter (5-59, both career highs), and junior Jammar Taylor (4-80). Johnson
has now caught at least one pass in 23 straight regular season games.
DEFENSE: The Wrecking Crew had 6 INTs (Every member of the Aggies' starting
secondary posted a pickoff.) and recovered four fumbles to erase the old BIG
12 standard of seven takeaways in a game and establish a new conference
turnover standard of 10. They limited ULL to 11 rushing yds on 23 attempts,
194 yds on a 14-of-42 effort by Cajun QBs, and sacked the signal caller
twice for 12 yds in a dominating display of effort. All 31 points scored by
the Aggies were the result of turnovers.
Hidden in the glow of the Wrecking Crews outstanding performance was the
fact that ULL's Fred Stamps had seven catches for a career-high 115 yds.
However, the WC's collective effort thoroughly disrupted the rest of the
Cajun offensive schemes allowing the A&M offense to run 94 plays that
included an unproductive first half.
SPECIAL TEAMS: Scates punted six times for a 41.2 average. Pegram missed FG
attempts of 39, 45, 37 and 47 yds and connected on a 21-yder.
PENALTIES: First game jitters were costly. A&M was penalized 16 times for
102 yds.
12TH MAN REPRESENTATIVE: Soph DB Anthony Squillante, from Southlake Carroll
High School, was the 12th Man Kickoff Team representative.
SLOCUM'S COMMENTS: " I was disappointed we weren't sharper. We got off to a
slow start, but the guys hung in there and stayed focused. We had too many
dropped balls and too many penalties, but I saw some very positive things
out there tonight. It looked like we were trying too hard. At the half, I
told them to just relax and start making plays. ... I thought our defense
played solid all night. We controlled their offense. If we had been more
efficient on offense, we could have had a bigger margin. ... I wanted to get
all the quarterbacks into the game. I just thought that we would be looking
at a situation a year from now when Mark will be gone, and one of those guys
will have to be the starter. I wanted to give him (McNeal) a chance to
compete. If you hold him out all year, he might go into the competition a
little behind. I wanted to be fair to all three of them. ... "
UNDER THE GOAL POSTS: How difficult has it been to learn "the system" at A&M
as an offensive player? During the past 10 years the Ags have had five
different offensive coordinators. ... Wondering where to look for
improvement this season on the offense? Try the third down conversion stats.
Last year the Ags converted just 30 percent of their third downs, 11th in
the BIG 12 and ahead of only KU (25%). As a result of the inconsistent
attack, they ranked 106th nationally in total offensive. League leader was
tu at 49 percent. ...
Defense, on the other hand, was great but national improvement statistically
might not result in a higher conference ranking. Defensively the Ags were
10th in the nation one year ago, but that only put them 5th in the BIG 12
conference. The Wrecking Crew has not allowed a 100-yd rusher in 13 straight
regular season games dating back to OSU RB Reggie White's 112-yd effort in
the ninth game of the 2000 season. ...
The Ags played seven true freshmen (PK Todd Pegram, QB Reggie McNeal,
linebacker Archie McDaniel, TE Patrick Fleming, defensive lineman Brian
Patrick, and Johnny Jolly and offensive lineman Aldo De La Garza) in the ULL
game. The Aggies are 14-0 in home openers under coach R.C. Slocum and 29-0
against non-conference teams at Kyle Field. ... The Wrecking Crew's 10
takeaways broke the BIG 12 record of seven set by ISU vs. Northern Iowa in
2001 (6 interceptions, 1 fumble recovery). The Ags' six pickoffs tied the
Big 12 record set by the Clones against Northern Iowa last season and is the
second most in school history (7 vs. Utah in 1936). ... Senior QB Mark
Farris needs 131 yds to join Corey Pullig (6,846), Kevin Murray (6,506) and
Edd Hargett (5,379) in the 5,000-yd club.
THE AGS NEXT OPPONENT - PITT (1-0): This is not the Pitt team I remember
when I was a member of the faculty at Penn State. In those days the Panthers
were led defensively by a tough DE named Hugh Green and offensively by a
youngster named Dan Marino. They played in a dilapidated stadium that was an
injury risk to any who bought tickets.
The current squad doesn't have the magnetic star power of the former
All-Americans and All-Pro player twosome, but they play in a state of the
art two-year-old stadium named Heinz Field. Yes, the same family that makes
ketchup.
The 2002 version of the Pitt Panthers extended their winning streak to seven
with a 27-14 win over Ohio University in their opening game on Saturday.
Most consider it an ugly win because junior QB Rod Rutherford struggled
(9-of-22 for just 97 yds, two TDs, and three INTs). Pitt totaled just 193
offensive yds against the Bobcats, considered by many in the East as a weak
sister of the Mid-American conference.
Like the Aggies, the Panther's showing was simply so-so and, like the Ags,
they are thankful that a season is not defined by one game. For Pitt the A&M
game now looms as a potential breakout contest. A win will position them for
a 5-0 mark when they meet conference foe Syracuse on Oct 5.
In a game reminiscent of A&M's offense against ULL, Pitt's receivers dropped
at least four passes, gave up three sacks, had difficulty creating running
room, and had a TD nullified by a penalty. And, like the Aggies, the Panther
fans are hoping a lot of that was first game jitters. Pitt featured two true
freshman wideouts (Larry Fitzgerald and Billy Gaines) and soph Roosevelt
Bynes started at WR opposite senior Lamar Slade (all four totaled 8 catches
for 97 yds).
In the sound familiar department, Pitt has "anointed savior" freshman QB
Tyler Palko waiting in the wings (his redshirt was removed in the second
quarter against Ohio for a single series). However, it seems unlikely that
head coach Walt Harris will start true freshman at all the critical skill
positions for the A&M game. Consequently, Rutherford should start at QB, but
if he struggles again Palko, now listed as #2 on the depth chart, will
probably see more than one series.
With all five starters returning on the offensive line, Pitt was expected to
have a season breakout ground game against Ohio University, but even when
leading 20-0 they were unable to establish a running game (96 yds on 44
attempts). Starter soph Raymond Kirkley finished with 17 yds on 7 attempts,
junior Brandon Miree rushed for 62 yds on 15 tries and soph Marcus Furman
had 15 on 6 attempts.
The Pitt defense, while highly regarded, does not mirror the Wrecking Crew's
front seven. Pitt's defense gave up 119 yds rushing on 24 carries to OU
tailback Chad Brinker, 216 yds on 44 total rushing attempts and 283 yds
overall. They also accounted for six turnovers. Linebackers senior Gerald
Hayes and junior Lewis Moore had an INT and 11 tackles and blocked a 34-yd
FG attempt, respectively.
The secondary is very good and contributed five INTs to prevent Ohio U. from
stealing a win. A critical fourth quarter INT set up Pitt's game clinching
TD when it was run back to the Ohio two. Junior DB Shawntae Spencer (his
three INTs against Ohio are a Big East and school record) is the national
leader in INTs. With senior Torrie Cox (interception, fumble recovery), the
Pitt secondary will play havoc with the Aggie receivers if they don't get
better separation on their routes and passes are not thrown more accurately
than they were against ULL.
Special teams appear solid. Punter Andy Lee averaged 42.8 yards on six
punts, Gaines returned two punts for 13 yds, and kicker David Abdul booted
five kickoffs and made a 40-yd FG. Soph walk-on J.B. Gibboney hit three PATs
and also kicked a 37-yd FG with 1:46 remaining in the first half.
Without a doubt the Wrecking Crew is equal to the task of stopping Pitt and,
based on Pitt's single game of the season, could even dominate the Panther
offense. The question this week is: Will the A&M offense show up with the
team in Pittsburgh?
First, even though Pitt is a much more talented opponent than ULL, it is
probable the Wrecking Crew will be the catalyst that causes Rutherford to
struggle. But to win and gain national respect, the offense must pull their
weight by sustaining a running game rather than hit the panic button. A
solid rushing effort will ensure the Ags avoid the Pitt falls (pun intended)
of having to throw into a very talented secondary to sustain every drive.
The challenge is there. ULL bulled through the A&M OL to make eight tackles
for losses so there is much work to be done in preparation for the Pitt
game. If the offense produces the physical effort up front necessary to
sustain a running game, then A&M returns to College Station with a win. If
the offense continues to run on empty then Heinz Field will leave a nasty
blotch on the Maroon and White.
WHAT'S NEXT: A&M @ Pitt Sep 7, televised ESPN @ 11 AM CDT.
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posted on
09/03/2002 7:54:18 PM PDT
by
Southack
To: Southack
Kewl! Thanx for that. I'm glad that the Wrecking Crew is there, as always, but our offensive showing has me worried. The Crew can get us a win this Saturday, but it is going to take a strong offense to get a win with Va Tech.
To: Mike K
1L huh? Where?That was when I first joined, in 1998. I've been practicing for over 2 years now.
Think I'm bitter? You should talk to some guys who played for us in the past!
You make a pretty good case. Since I don't see many Baylor games, I'll bring your points up for discussion with someone else who does.
Now for the toughie: who would you recommend Baylor hire?
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posted on
09/04/2002 7:09:24 AM PDT
by
1L
To: 1L
Wow #1932 you are an old timer here.
Since we've been so bad lately, we need a name coach to bring initial credibility. George O'Leary is still out there (Steele lied on his CV too). I'd take Bob Davie in a minute. Shoot at this point I'd take RC at the end of the season.
The obvious thing would be to fire Steele today and replace him with the new OC Baldwin as interim. If he performs, keep him. If not, bring in a name.
Paul Johnson at Navy might be a good fit for Baylor.
There are some who'd like to see Mike Singletary return as HC. He'd bring no experience but plenty of skill and contacts.
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:08:11 AM PDT
by
Mike K
To: Texaggie79
Sigh....
All my teams play "possum football."
Play dead at home and get killed on the road.
To: Mike K
The obvious thing would be to fire Steele today and replace him with the new OC Baldwin as interim. If he performs, keep him. If not, bring in a name. It's just not going to happen. According to some posts at a Baylor board, there is a strong belief that Sloan knows there is a problem and probably will make changes. BUT...looking from their point of view, does it make sense to make a change now instead of at the end of the year? When Steele was hired, I'm sure the first thing that was discussed was, "you don't have to turn this thing completely around in 2 or 3 years." Well, it's been only 3 years and they are on the verge of dumping him. I can't believe that they wouldn't handle it as professionally as they can and do it at the end of the season, especially by letting him resign.
In addition, what message does that send to a quality coach coming to Baylor? Take a team from the bottom of the toughest conference in America, improve it drastically, and, by the way, don't loose big in any game against an opponent as weak or weaker. Davie might take it, but will probably be on the short list for the A&M job; O'Leary wouldn't touch it; the Navy coach would probably be well advised to leave it alone as well. It's one thing to have pressure at A&M or t.u. where the salaries are over a mill a year. It's quite another to have immense pressure when you are making a total of $350,000. Finally, if you do find a gem from the assistant ranks, he's gone as soon as he turns the thing around.
I'm afraid that looking at the structure of the Big 12, Baylor might be well advised to be content with being competitive in the bottom fourth of the conference in football, and play well in the other sports where they are on more equal ground. I'm sorry that Baylor fans (like me) don't want to hear that, but unless they find oil under Penland Hall, Baylor won't have the capital to compete in football.
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posted on
09/04/2002 9:38:14 AM PDT
by
1L
To: 1L
I wouldn't be too sure that Steele doesn't get fired mid season. Look at how we lose, blowouts, major blowouts. In Big XII games, the average margin of loss is 35 points. We have been outscored 1,022 to 246 in the Big XII under Steele.
If we get blown out by Kansas at home on Oct 5, he may not see A&M come to town the next week.
As far as what message firing him sends an incoming coach, how about "if you lose 24 consecutive Big XII games by an average of 35 points, you will be fired." Do you (1L) think that's unfair? If the incoming coach thinks it raw, he's not the guy for the job.
Our out of conference under the previous coaches included Miami, Notre Dame, Oregon State, Michigan, USC, Fresno State. On Saturday we play Samford, you are excused if you respond, WHO?. Our most recent win was against D-1AA Southern Illinois. We've beaten North Texas twice under Steele, along with New Mexico, Southern Florida and Ark State. Quite a change, huh?
Also, Steele is not making 350m, his base salary is 455 and endorsements bring him over 600. Let's see, at that rate (455 only) we pay 227m per win. Only Stoopes and Steele are in that range. RC would have made 1.8M on that scale last year.
There is no reason that Baylor can't pay someone big bucks to be coach. The money is there, they just increased freshman tuition by 39%!
I'm puzzled why you think Baylor should settle for being at or near the bottom in football. Miami is the same size, should they settle for the bottom of the Big East? Notre Dame, Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse, Purdue and USC are all private schools that do well in football. Why shouldn't Baylor?
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posted on
09/04/2002 11:02:36 AM PDT
by
Mike K
To: Mike K
Our out of conference under the previous coaches included Miami, Notre Dame, Oregon State, Michigan, USC, Fresno State. On Saturday we play Samford, you are excused if you respond, WHO?. Our most recent win was against D-1AA Southern Illinois. We've beaten North Texas twice under Steele, along with New Mexico, Southern Florida and Ark State. Quite a change, huh?Well, we need to look at who does the scheduling, and when. Scheduling is done at the major college level more than 3 or 4 years in advance. For example, A&M has already scheduled a game for 2011, and I think all schedules through at least 2006 or 2007 are set. I can't speak to Baylor's situation, and you may be right, but before you get on Steele about that, double check.
I'm puzzled why you think Baylor should settle for being at or near the bottom in football. Miami is the same size, should they settle for the bottom of the Big East? Notre Dame, Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse, Purdue and USC are all private schools that do well in football.
The situation at Baylor is totally different. Miami built successful teams on, shall we say, less than ethical means. That won't happen at Baylor. Baylor was SWC champion twice, and competed for it about 8 more times, but that isn't much for the time they were in the SWC. However, once Miami got rolling, recruiting picked up, they got a reputation, attracted powerful coaches, and money. Further, while last year Miami was the best college football team of all time (IMO), they don't play in the Big 12 with 4 or 5 consistent top 25 teams, and another 4 with potential to be there. In addition, they aren't, unlike Baylor, the only private school in their conference. Florida and out of state kids want to go to Miami over UF, FSU, and other schools, with Baylor it just isn't the same.
As far as the other schools you mentioned, sorry, but for the most part, Baylor can't compare with them. Notre Dame has revenue sources out of their ears. USC is bigger, almost state school like (which many folks think they are), and have a winning tradition. Stanford, BC, and Purdue all play in weaker conferences than Baylor, and are terribly inconsistent. They also have very competitive hoops programs that take the pressure off of football. They also probably have bigger revenue generation.
Compare how much Baylor pays Steele to how much Miami pays their coach. If Baylor can afford to pay a coach over a million a year, they might get the candidates that can make that program very competitive. They also probably need better facilities and someone that can sell kids on going there vs. A&M, t.u., 0u, and further out of state. Until that happens, I'm sorry to say that Baylor's best hope is to be competitive in the lowest quarter of the Big 12. If you think otherwise, then explain why Oklahoma State can't seem to get out of that same situation.
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posted on
09/04/2002 12:09:31 PM PDT
by
1L
To: 1L
I understand the scheduling proces, Steele picked North Texas (once), Southern Illinois and Samford. We could have gone to Alabama last year (for a guaranteed 500m) instead of hosting SIU (9/11 make up game) at a significant loss, but he thought that was our 6th win, which would qualify us for a bowl. Oops, 3 and 9 don't git it coach. I might want him out of Baylor, but I won't accuse him unfairly.
There's no reason that Baylor can't pay top dollar for a coach. A couple of bowl games will pay it all back.
USC is 15,000 students, Baylor is 12,000 - not decidedly different. And none of the other teams mentioned play in the Big XII but they do play tougher non conference schedules.
OSU is out of the bottom in football. They beat OU last year and kept them from repeating as national champs.
Right now Baylor is competitive with no one in the league. That needs to change, it would be better for everyone in the Big XII.
I hope we've cleaned up our game when the Ag's come to FCS on Oct 12. I doubt that we can beat Kansas this year. Steele has never beaten a first year coach and Mangino is not the average first year coach.
If he beats A&M and UT this year, he can stay!
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posted on
09/04/2002 6:37:59 PM PDT
by
Mike K
To: Mike K
We could have gone to Alabama last year (for a guaranteed 500m) instead of hosting SIU (9/11 make up game) at a significant loss, but he thought that was our 6th win, which would qualify us for a bowl. Honestly, this is 6 of 1, and a half dozen of another. The only problem with doing things like going to Alabama, is that Baylor aligns itself with the Louisiana-Lafeyettes of the world -- i.e. willing to travel for a game check. I don't think that's the way to build a program, but I'm willing to listen to those who think it is.
There's no reason that Baylor can't pay top dollar for a coach. A couple of bowl games will pay it all back.
I'm not the one suggesting they SHOULDN'T. I'm the one suggesting they WON'T. I don't think this is in their future.
USC is 15,000 students, Baylor is 12,000 - not decidedly different.
Hmmm. Not according to USC's web site: "Today, USC is located at the heart of one of the biggest metropolises in the world and is home to over 28,800 students and 3,800 faculty." In addition, USC has a large alumni base, including Hollywood, that paves the way for higher levels of funding. Additionally, as much as I like Baylor, comparing it to USC for football reasons is almost (sorry, but) laughable. There have been few years when USC wasn't competitive in football, and only recently have they fallen out of year to year competition for the national championship. USC recruits nationally, they once owned California (like t.u. did Texas), and still get most of the recruits they really want.
And none of the other teams mentioned play in the Big XII but they do play tougher non conference schedules.
BC plays UConn, Stanford, and Central Michigan. Purdue plays Notre Dame, Western Michigan, Illinois State, and Wake Forest. Baylor plays Cal, Samford, New Mexico, and Tulsa. While Baylor's schedule this year isn't quite as tough as the teams you mentioned, and certainly nothing like Miami's, except for Notre Dame there isn't a great deal of difference between the opponents mentioned. So essentially I don't buy the argument that the schedules are really much tougher at all.
OSU is out of the bottom in football. They beat OU last year and kept them from repeating as national champs.
Since they lost to La. Tech, a decently, but not great team, I'll reserve judgment. OSU and Baylor will fight for the 5th and 6th spots in the B12 south.
Right now Baylor is competitive with no one in the league.
While the defeat to Cal was very discouraging, no team in the Big 12 really shined in their opener. Iowa State came close, and they lost! If the team has truly quit on Steele, then the administration will have no choice. But let's wait and see what happens. I think Baylor CAN win their next four games, then comes the meat of the B12 schedule, and they play OSU the last game. That's bad luck, since if OSU was the week they play A&M, they might have a better chance.
If he beats A&M and UT this year, he can stay!
Well, if that's the measure, he might as well find a realtor.
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posted on
09/05/2002 7:56:54 AM PDT
by
1L
To: Physicist
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